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Total Members Voted: 13

[10ebbor10]

Yes, the fact that when Virii are destroyed they do give a amount of resources, it is usually quite insubstantial, and the woudl not give enough resources to make up for the investment.
 
I'm thinking about a cell that uses Virii as a weapon though. We really don't have that IRL. Probably because of dificulties keeping track of the virii. If a solution could be found, the virii could canabalize the cell and go back to the main cell to be destroyed and used for resources, sorta like what happens in the human body when a regular cell dies.

Kinda impossible. Since the cell doesn't control the virii, and the virii have no real benefit in complying to the cell's wishes. Going berzerk and just plundering what they find works much better.

Also, virii can't move.

The second could possibly be solver with some sort of injector on the former's part. Unlike with large creatures, Viruses can kill a cell quite quickly if they are not overcome or not programmed to stay hidden. It would also break up the other cell easily, and start the process before the cell even died.
 
Also, you seem to have a startingly high assumption of virii intelligience. The virii could be programmed to be redundant, short-lived, or even even just not attacking something with a indentifier protein.

If you get to inject things directly into the cell anyway, how about just some digestion proteins, or RNA that codes for digestion proteins. There's no point in wasting energy and resources on virii when it's much easier to just make poison.*

A thousand monkeys on a thousand typewriters. Virii evolve stupidly fast.

*Really, a virus is RNA or Dna code + some proteins + protein coating. You're injecting stuff into the cell, so the last isn't needed. The first isn't needed either, since the cell can code for stuff itself, and doesn't need to hijacks another cell's production mechanisms.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

A cell produces virii.

Which are synthesised from the amino acids, sugars and whatnot the cell digest anyway.

The virii hijack the cell and force it to produce more virii.  The other cells in the 'virovore' just uses the  cell as bait to attract virii.  That tactic would probably be only used if they were in an area that had very few cells infected by virii.  If there are cells that are largely infected nearby, it would just eat the infected cells.

Of course, that is only if that method is used, which as stated to be unlikely, unless the organism is 'starving' and needs the sustenance.

Yes, the virii don't make magicially more molecules out of nothing. This is a perpetuum mobile (in a broader sense).

The virii aren't making molecules out of nothing, they are forcing the cell to create copies of the virus.

[GreatWyrmGold]

A cell produces virii.

Which are synthesised from the amino acids, sugars and whatnot the cell digest anyway.

The virii hijack the cell and force it to produce more virii.  The other cells in the 'virovore' just uses the  cell as bait to attract virii.  That tactic would probably be only used if they were in an area that had very few cells infected by virii.  If there are cells that are largely infected nearby, it would just eat the infected cells.

Of course, that is only if that method is used, which as stated to be unlikely, unless the organism is 'starving' and needs the sustenance.

Yes, the virii don't make magicially more molecules out of nothing. This is a perpetuum mobile (in a broader sense).

The virii aren't making molecules out of nothing, they are forcing the cell to create copies of the virus.

Viri really aren't big enough to be worth it. You'd have to eat a lot, and by then the infection risks wold more than outweigh the food.

[Draconik_Sankis]

Didn't see any reference to Sulfur eaters yet... if there are some I shall not keep their food from them.

However the fact that I point out that ANY God/Goddess that wants to speed up evolution can sacrifice a little bit of themselves for a praticular evolution and all of a sudden i'm called a Cheater?

its not like i'm creating a flying serpentine being thats a cross between a boa and a paraot and telling it to rule the world.  I'm just giving all  the little guys a little bit more protection from the Oxygen I'm making to defend them from radation.

However I intend on adding two new things one i'm going to go find a source of Carbon Dioxide somewhere nearby and get it into a slowly sinking orbital so that it causes minimal damage and provides maximum collection (to replace the CO2 i'm using to create the oxygen layer)
Then i'm going to find a nice looking comet and change its orbit to pass by Genesis once every 5 Years  (and its orbit will not plunge it into one of the other steallar bodies)

[GreatWyrmGold]

Isn't that what the creatures descended from the black-smoker prokaryotes eat? Some of them, at least?

We're playing Toomin's game here, changing as little as possible. Well, kinda. We're limiting our changes to accelerating evolution, mostly. Um...remind me, which action was your that we called cheating?

[CaptApollo12]

There is one source of materials that each and every one of us has overlooked when providing benefits to these growing species.

Lord Draken reaches into the cells that comprise himself and from them pulls their DNA coding to survive in oxygen rich environments and grants each of the races this resisitance to the gas as he starts to turn the Sulfur Dioxide into Ozone and removes the sulfur to Tranquality where he stores the sulfur in a solid mass.

*Draken's DNA grants increase oxygen resistance to all currently alive races*

[10ebbor10]

Yup, some of the black smoker bacteria eat Sulphur, amongst other chemicals.

Problem with the action above is that anaerobic bacteria are usefull for lots of stuff. Also, mass exstinction are great arcelerators for evolution.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Except for the extinct organisms, of course.

[Jbg97]

Underwater earthquake, the resulting Tsunami will wash millions of microbes onto the land. Teach the little bastards that if they wanna live on this planet, they gotta work for their survival.

[misko27]

If there are resources there, sure. If not, wer'e just suiciding millions of them. Early Microbes were not known for their physical-trauma resistance.

[10ebbor10]

Also, the land's pretty much rock and congealed magma at this point.

Some species might survive, but water shortage will be a problem.

[Jbg97]

Also, the land's pretty much rock and congealed magma at this point.

Some species might survive, but water shortage will be a problem.

Well, we got Producers right? That's how land life started on Earth; Producers washing up on land and slowly converting the rocks into soil, staying close to the water until they could evolve cuticles to retain water. If we get some primitive algae or something up on the shore we can start changing the atmosphere to be hospitable. Also, they would be food for later multicellular animal life.

[misko27]

The first life to colonize land IIRC was plants followed closely by wood lice. The lice for decomposition, of course. Magmatic soil can be very good, but not while it's still hot.

[10ebbor10]

The first life to colonize land IIRC was plants followed closely by wood lice. The lice for decomposition, of course. Magmatic soil can be very good, but not while it's still hot.

Cyanobacteria were probable first, but those didn't do much.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Underwater earthquake, the resulting Tsunami will wash millions of microbes onto the land. Teach the little bastards that if they wanna live on this planet, they gotta work for their survival.

Just don't hit my island.  The palace I created is on it.