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Author Topic: Dark Heresy: Illumination OOC - FULL  (Read 43930 times)

mesor

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Re: Dark Heresy: Illumination OOC - FULL
« Reply #570 on: November 27, 2012, 06:19:20 pm »

I make them slightly nervous but thats about all.
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Re: Dark Heresy: Illumination OOC - FULL
« Reply #571 on: November 27, 2012, 06:40:43 pm »

Being near to an untouchable, for a psyker, is enough to cause pain. Physical contact is even worse.
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« Reply #572 on: November 27, 2012, 06:41:40 pm »

Because she's terrified of you, because you're a soulless monster. I thought we already covered this? Besides, psykers aren't exactly renowned for their mental stability.  :P

Also, I do plan on posting at some point; just trying to figure out a way to re-insert myself, given all that I missed, and that most of the activity is while I'm asleep  :-X
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[18:14] <The_Gamemaster> I am here.
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Re: Dark Heresy: Illumination OOC - FULL
« Reply #573 on: November 27, 2012, 06:42:46 pm »

It was said before man, several times.

I do not cause pain.

I make psykers uneasy and trigger the fight or flight response but no pain.
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« Reply #574 on: November 27, 2012, 06:51:15 pm »

It was said before man, several times.

I do not cause pain.

It was said before man, several times.

Her fear of you isn't and doesn't need to be necessarily rational. She doesn't necessarily know the difference between the flavors of soulless monster, she's kind of batshit by default merely on account of being a psyker, and you're a sociopath to boot. I really don't know how I can spell it out any simpler than that.
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« Reply #575 on: November 27, 2012, 06:53:43 pm »

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blank#.ULVR-IYp2-0

As a psychic having your skills blocked out might not, i'm stressing the might here, cause physical harm but it may very well cause mental damage as they are being cut off from something that is a part of them.

Also you trigger fear and revulsion towards those effected not fight or flight response.
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« Reply #576 on: November 27, 2012, 07:03:11 pm »

Thats how it was described to me in a private meeting with the seer.
The words were literally I trigger a primal instinct to run far away or to kill me.
In simpler terms, fight or flight.

Plus I don't cut it off I make it more difficult but I don't cut it off.
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« Reply #577 on: November 27, 2012, 07:08:25 pm »

Thats how it was described to me in a private meeting with the seer.
The words were literally I trigger a primal instinct to run far away or to kill me.
In simpler terms, fight or flight.

Plus I don't cut it off I make it more difficult but I don't cut it off.
You cut it off. I doubt there is any creature, chaos or not, in existence that can use their powers near you. Also as a side note you make everyone uncomfortable being near you not just psychics.
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« Reply #578 on: November 27, 2012, 07:11:29 pm »

I don't cut it off in the game as nobody explained.

It is more difficult to use powers when within 3 meters of me but it is not impossible, meaning I do not cut it off.
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« Reply #579 on: November 27, 2012, 08:22:47 pm »

Fuck, can we get a GM ruling on this?

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« Reply #580 on: November 27, 2012, 08:49:10 pm »

Quote from: Radical's Handbook
Untouchable
Career: Any Career, but you may not possess a Psy Rating.
Special: May have no other package, talent, trait or similar that grants psychic, faith or warp-based powers or abilities, both during creation or later development.
Cost: 400 xp.
Untouchables are extraordinarily rare individuals who cast no shadow in the warp. Their mere presence acts to inhibit and disrupt psychic energy to such an extent that even humans with no psychic ability whatsoever grow uncomfortable and fractious around them. People who possess this unique nature are often marginalized and isolated, possessing few or no friends and have suffered a very troubled uprbringing. Many find themselves living on the criminal margins of the Imperium for all their lives to die alone and unmissed. Unsettling and disliked though they may be an untouchables powers are singular and as can be imagined, the Inquisition has many uses for such singular individuals in its wars against the witch and the Daemon, as do certain cults, conspiracies and worse for their own dark purposes.
Special Note: Although untouchables are themselves exceedingly rare and little understood, there are others who share similar traits and variations on their condition both less and savagely more powerful in effect outside the scope of this book. Such nightmarish individuals will be covered in a future release. ("Not yet though, we have to bring up Necrons and abhumans first")

Effects
Apply all of the following changes to your character.
Characteristics: The character’s starting Fellowship Characteristic is reduced by 10 (if the character’s Fellowship is 10 or less already, it is reduced to 1) but may later be increased as normal.
Unsettling Presence: An untouchable suffers a –10 penalty to all Interaction Skill Tests.
Psychic Blank: The character may never gain Psychic Powers, Pure Faith, Sorcery or related Talents.
Psychic Invulnerability: An untouchable is completely immune to Psychic Powers, psychic energy and effects directed against them (as well as warp powers, possession, sorcery, Corruption from warp shock, and so forth) Also, he cannot be detected by means of Psyniscience, Sense Presence, or similar abilities—powers of this type directed at their person, even though successfully manifested, simply fail. Powers in whose wider areas he is caught simply fail to affect him—although they may affect other people normally, subject to their disruption effect.
Psychic Disruption: All Psychic Powers and abilities manifested in the character’s immediate area (a radius equal to the Untouchable’s Willpower Bonus in metres) have their Threshold increased by 10, plus any associated Test by the psyker (such as Willpower Tests) have their Difficulty increased by –20. Additionally, entities subject to Warp Instability will suffer double Damage from its effects while in this area.
Note: It may still be possible to indirectly affect an untouchable with a Psychic Power—for example, a boulder telekinetically dropped from a great height on an untouchable will still flatten them. This is left entirely left to the discretion of the GM.
Quote from: The Untouchable and the Profane
An untouchable (thanks to his special nature) is spared some of both the perils of interaction with the Warp and
some of its potential powers and benifits. An untouchable may not for example, under any normal circumstances enter into a Dark Pact with a warp entity or receive the benefits of beneficial psychic powers, sorcery or true faith. They may not learn sorcery or take any talents associated with it and may not have faith talents (see pages 50-51 of The Inquisitor’s Handbook). A force weapon, daemon weapon, or occult artefact (or the like) in the hands of an untouchable is merely a weapon or object of its type. The untouchable may not unleash or benefit from any of the weapon’s special powers or abilities, or (in the case of a daemon weapon) master it. However, the same also applies to such items and weapons used against the untouchable. Other than base damage listed (a sword in the guts is still a sword in the guts after all) any other particular effect such a weapon would normally have on the untouchable is likewise ignored.
     Because of their unique place in the universe of Dark Heresy, untouchables in games may bring up odd questions about their nature in the rules and options such characters may take. In all cases it is up to the GM’s own good sense and judgment to decide how they are handled.
Emphasis mine.

This is all the RAW the book provides. From this, I decree that Gabriel's variation on untouchable is not strong enough to cause physical pain but I also say that psykers are short-lived by nature and a little mental due to sanctioning, so Roth is justified in her fear of the soulless.

GM Escape Route: Aristarchus doesn't know the truth of everything. He was probably guessing based on past experience and hearsay.
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« Reply #581 on: November 27, 2012, 09:08:16 pm »

Ok, cool. Also if it isn't too much bother, can I get a list of the talents and things that assassins can get? I don't want to box myself into a corner.

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« Reply #582 on: November 27, 2012, 09:17:10 pm »

THE UNTOUCHABLE CANNOT BLOCK YOUR POWERS IF YOU DISABLE HIS HEAD.
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« Reply #583 on: November 27, 2012, 09:40:39 pm »

From: here.

THE UNTOUCHABLE CANNOT BLOCK YOUR POWERS IF YOU DISABLE HIS HEAD.
...by removing the head or destroying the brain.
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« Reply #584 on: November 27, 2012, 09:57:46 pm »

Excellent. I know what I'm specialising in. (Pistols)   :D
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