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[WitchKiller]

I think I got confused on my embark, it looked like I settled inland on an island and there was a river next to me. When I looked at the local map before embark it had a river looking blue line going right next to my embark zone but when I embarked I noticed no river... and I was in some steep valley in the mountains, also the map is small/limited? I'm not sure, here's some screenshots maybe someone can assess the situation ?


Ground level, there are no water or magma sources all the way to the bottom level


3 levels up from ground, there's 2 or 3 more layers of terrain then total black/darkness above that to the top layer

I have no idea if I can scroll off this map, so far if I can I haven't been able to figure it out... What you see is the limits of where my camera will go.

[FuzzyZergling]

I can't see anything wrong with the embark.
You should just decide for yourself.

[WitchKiller]

I can't see anything wrong with the embark.
You should just decide for yourself.

Well it seems very meager in terms of things to do above ground, I can see myself running out of trees soon. At the same time not a lot of room for creatures to spawn/manuever about. Also I will run out of water since there is no renewable water sources around (like a river/ocean).

Or am I missing something? I can play without those things I suppose, but it doesn't seem so fun to have a lot of things restricted like that.

I'm really newb so maybe there is a lot to do, but this is my second map... My first map seemed much bigger/more open with a lot more to do compared to this one. I'm wondering if I'm just missing something here before I decide to start a new game.

[FuzzyZergling]

If it rains, then any drained murky pools will fill back up. Trees also grow back, and I can't think of any reasons to prefer larger embarks to smaller ones.
As I said before, you should decide for yourself. If you think that this embark is boring, then abandon and try somewhere else.

[WitchKiller]

If it rains, then any drained murky pools will fill back up. Trees also grow back, and I can't think of any reasons to prefer larger embarks to smaller ones.
As I said before, you should decide for yourself. If you think that this embark is boring, then abandon and try somewhere else.

Murky pools aren't clean water right? Is there something I need clean water for and if so can I make any?

[FuzzyZergling]

I think that dwarves get bad thoughts from drinking stagnant water, but the only time a dwarf should be drinking water is when they're sick.
Water can be cleaned by pumping it.

[Azated]

If it rains, then any drained murky pools will fill back up. Trees also grow back, and I can't think of any reasons to prefer larger embarks to smaller ones.
As I said before, you should decide for yourself. If you think that this embark is boring, then abandon and try somewhere else.

Murky pools aren't clean water right? Is there something I need clean water for and if so can I make any?

stagnant or contaminated water gives unpleasant thoughts to dwarves who drink it and increases infection rates when doctors use it to clean wounds.

In order to clean, decontaminate and desalinate water, you just need to pump it through a screw pump and into a reservoir of some kind, preferably one that has never touched bad water before (as that tile will contaminate all water it touches forever).

[FuzzyZergling]

In order to clean, decontaminate and desalinate water, you just need to pump it through a screw pump and into a reservoir of some kind, preferably one that has never touched bad water before (as that tile will contaminate all water it touches forever).

I thought that flowing water now de-stagnates water when they mix?

[Azated]

In order to clean, decontaminate and desalinate water, you just need to pump it through a screw pump and into a reservoir of some kind, preferably one that has never touched bad water before (as that tile will contaminate all water it touches forever).

I thought that flowing water now de-stagnates water when they mix?

I completely forgot about that update. My mistake.

[kuki]

You don't need to use a pump on the water, or anything special. Just drain a murky pool partly or completely into a cistern and put a well overtop. Designate a drinking zone over the well and turn on zone-only drinking and hooray, clean water. If you make the connection between the cistern and the murky pool switchable, you can refill your cistern eventually with rainwater.

Your embark is also totally fine. Animals will run freely all over those slopes as if it were one large contiguous area (well, it is). I would restart if I were you, just so as not to build my fort on the right-most part of the screen, where the menu will cover it up every time it appears and you'll have to scroll your cursor to the right. But that's just me, maybe that doesn't happen to or bother other people. In terms of game mechanics that is a perfectly nice place for a fortress.

Edit. I think I see your confusion. Forgive me if I'm wrong - but it seems as if you thought, when embarking, the four tiles you chose were your "base" and the surrounding area was your local environment. Those four highlighted tiles you embarked on are the sum total of your map for this fort and you can't go anywhere else. So, the river you saw 'nearby' is actually 'just off the map.' And you're probably inland on that island like you thought you were; just in a smaller area than you thought, and you probably didn't check the slope.

[WitchKiller]

Edit. I think I see your confusion. Forgive me if I'm wrong - but it seems as if you thought, when embarking, the four tiles you chose were your "base" and the surrounding area was your local environment. Those four highlighted tiles you embarked on are the sum total of your map for this fort and you can't go anywhere else. So, the river you saw 'nearby' is actually 'just off the map.' And you're probably inland on that island like you thought you were; just in a smaller area than you thought, and you probably didn't check the slope.

Ahhhh, thanks that helps a lot actually... I decided to start a new world and I also found the site finder page on the wiki which explains that I can actually increase the embark size so I can get a bigger map like I had before, 4x4 is a bit small for my tastes. TY

[Kellnaved]

Donīt forget that a bigger embark will decrease your FPS considerbly later in the game.

[AutomataKittay]

Edit. I think I see your confusion. Forgive me if I'm wrong - but it seems as if you thought, when embarking, the four tiles you chose were your "base" and the surrounding area was your local environment. Those four highlighted tiles you embarked on are the sum total of your map for this fort and you can't go anywhere else. So, the river you saw 'nearby' is actually 'just off the map.' And you're probably inland on that island like you thought you were; just in a smaller area than you thought, and you probably didn't check the slope.

Ahhhh, thanks that helps a lot actually... I decided to start a new world and I also found the site finder page on the wiki which explains that I can actually increase the embark size so I can get a bigger map like I had before, 4x4 is a bit small for my tastes. TY

I'd advise to not have more than 5x5, since it does get pretty hard on FPS and memory demand. I tend to play 2x2 myself for FPS reason.

Either way, have fun!

[FuzzyZergling]

I play on 2x2 because I hate not being able to see the whole map at once.

[knutor]

5x5 here, but I prefer to paint a restricted traveling, 10 space wide, donut completely around the embark map fringe.  Take seriously the FPS tips, I'm at 162 population, and currently have a 9 FPS.  It sometimes hops up to 30, but for the most part, its 9.  Was 2 FPS for a whole season, there during a SIEGE, and Caravan, all at the same time.  Had double the population, it was crazy.  300 entities.  Couldn't just mop them up either, they brought two Elite Marksmen.

@WitchKiller, I would've started over, too.  I hate not getting what's advertised.  Good luck on the new one.