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[GreatWyrmGold]

What if Alice will be in good mood? If we get a romantic moment or something? As I said don't try actively, just keep that in mind if opportunity arise.

Sure, if it comes up. Don't push it, though.

BTW, we'll need someone to guard our son while we fighting. Alice is a good choice for that because she can ran away with him... Add babygirl to the oven (like our GM likes to say) and we have guarantee that Night troll will survive even if we don't

Good point and good idea.

[Remalle]

lol wut

[GreatWyrmGold]

I highly suspect that this belongs in another thread.

[Corai]

No, it belongs here. It's obviously night troll code for some incredible plan.

[Remalle]

Oops o__O

[Mlamlah]

I don't think we should impregnate alice yet, for a number of reasons.
I think we need to figure out what's going on with the child we already have on the way before we add a third to those we need to care for. Three children is a lot to take care of, particularly if we plan on getting to any more shenanigans in the near future.
We don't really know much about caring for a child, this goes back to the "too many children" thing again, basically, we have no idea how much of a handful the one/two will be, we don't need to exasperate problems if any of our children prove difficult to deal with.
Alice *also* has expressed a wish to learn more about caring for children before having her own, we should follow her reasoning and respect that decision.

[Corruptor]

I don't think we should impregnate alice yet, for a number of reasons.
I think we need to figure out what's going on with the child we already have on the way before we add a third to those we need to care for. Three children is a lot to take care of, particularly if we plan on getting to any more shenanigans in the near future.
We don't really know much about caring for a child, this goes back to the "too many children" thing again, basically, we have no idea how much of a handful the one/two will be, we don't need to exasperate problems if any of our children prove difficult to deal with.
Alice *also* has expressed a wish to learn more about caring for children before having her own, we should follow her reasoning and respect that decision.

Agreed on all counts. Besides, we might come across some consort-material in the upcoming raid, and we're almost certainly going to get Vindel's girl - need to save what gifts we have remaining for that imo.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I think we need to figure out what's going on with the child we already have on the way before we add a third to those we need to care for. Three children is a lot to take care of, particularly if we plan on getting to any more shenanigans in the near future.

Infants don't need anything expect food. No fear, no magic. It's not much harder to protect 3 than protect one.
Besides, one of the options is to send Alice in a safe place, communicate via mirror and create second night troll enclave

Also, ifwe don't want to raise an egoist from our son, he need brothers and sisters... Jimma's baby is meant to be a slave like she is. Even if it will not get the puppet trait, it would be a weakling comparing to our son and should never be treated equally

And from roleplaying point of view it's our duty to make babies

Besides, we might come across some consort-material in the upcoming raid,

Or we might die with highly valuable unspent gift. And the left stone don't mix well with anyone who aren't very loyal
Gifts are coming at pretty steady pace, so I'd not worry with saving them

Aaaaand, many consorts are way harder to control and supply than many children. Maybe one or two more consorts is good, but more will inflate our family way to much.  I prefer to make babies. Alice deserves one to lose that magical influence on her will. (plus we need to give Grandchild to Foghorn to strengthen family ties) . Gwen deserves more children because we love her and Jimma is ideal for producing second class trolls from mediocre gifts.
And if Cherlyn will stay alive, I am sure that this damned girl will seduce us at some point and will get a gift

[GreatWyrmGold]

About converting/impregnating: We currently have 5 gifts, and it wouldn't surprise me if some event in the course of the raid gave us a sixth. Let's not bet on that, though, and stick to five.

One is valuable and should only be used on someone we trust. Since Alice is no longer an option, that leaves Kelpmier and impregnating someone (probably Alice--she deserves the honors, and it would be awesome to have a race of female night trolls with flamey wings and/or resurrection capabilities).
The other four (Inferno's Embrace, Withering Touch, Amnesia, Battlelust...wait, what did we give Cherlyn?) aren't quite as valuable, and IMHO could be spent to convert any female we feel like we should be allied with and that would work well with the gift in question.

The Gifts aren't infinite, but they're not too scarce, either.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Oh, Yes... Some things that need to get fixed in the stats

Improving Communicator: Your Communication skill will increase if you succeed in 1 communication actions, or train extensively under a superior communicator.

We have this for a looooong time (I admit that it's way to easy to raise communication skill, because we make so many rolls, but still)

Time Displacement Specialist: Take a +1 to any attempt to send something foward in time.

We lost that when we leveled up eon manipulation

Budding Fire Manipulator: You will gain the fire manipulation skill if you succeed in 2 fire manipulation actions or train with somebody who has it

Obsolete

Gift of Amnesia: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have a hypnosis power capable of removing the last few minutes of a mortal's memory.

Spent


Some metagaming: As for new gifts. It's quite possible that we'll get one if we raise some skill, animal empathy is the most likely candidate. (obvious way to raise it is to train with Alice, if we will spend some time with her) Animal empathy has two perks (bird speaking and bug speaking) that may convert to a gift
Nocheclaw related skills are also good candidates for the gift giving

Oh, I remembered one thing that I wanted to propose when I was in a read only mode:  ask Foghorn about gods in the universe. It would be better to do it at the feast, but magic mirror can do that, too... But it's better to combine with some important conversation and don't bother our father in law with questions

[GreatWyrmGold]

Okay, four gifts (one valuable and requiring a trustworthy candidate), which leaves three that could be used on good mates. Not ideal, but acceptable.

Learning more about deities is a good idea. It's rude to be cursed by someone without even knowing who they got their power from.

[gman8181]

I think the immolation gift is one of our more valuable ones.  I'd rather use that on a child than on a consort, just saying.  Otherwise yeah everything sounds good to me.

Edit:  Yikes did this die?

[Mlamlah]

I certainly hope not, this thread actually inspired me to start a project of my own. (Though, the project might have been too ambitious, it's a lot of work, and i feel guilty for not having it ready yet.)

[gman8181]

I certainly hope not, this thread actually inspired me to start a project of my own. (Though, the project might have been too ambitious, it's a lot of work, and i feel guilty for not having it ready yet.)

Good for you, when it's ready let me know and I'll come post.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I certainly hope not, this thread actually inspired me to start a project of my own. (Though, the project might have been too ambitious, it's a lot of work, and i feel guilty for not having it ready yet.)

Same here. I was planning to start a forum game. You?