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[anailater]

Can I put something out for future plans, when the baby is born we should ask Gwendoline to examine the mermaids transforming bracelet, it could be incredibly useful if she could recreate it to make us look human, elven and dwarven.

[Mlamlah]

Can I put something out for future plans, when the baby is born we should ask Gwendoline to examine the mermaids transforming bracelet, it could be incredibly useful if she could recreate it to make us look human, elven and dwarven.

This is a good idea

[Corruptor]

Can I put something out for future plans, when the baby is born we should ask Gwendoline to examine the mermaids transforming bracelet, it could be incredibly useful if she could recreate it to make us look human, elven and dwarven.

+1

We should also look into learning Necromancy. Perhaps we could contact Foghorn and ask if he has any spellbooks on the subject?

[GreatWyrmGold]

I'd like to bring something up.
People keep talking about the Gift of Bloodlust being bad because it would make Alice lose control.
To that I have the following counterargument:
IT DOES NOT DO THAT.
Thank you.

Why do people want to give Alice the Phoenix gift? It pretty much removes the chance of having Phoenix descendants, and also negates Alice's abilities of stealth and existence in flammable environments.

Anyways, I would be fine with giving the Gift of the Left Stone to Alice if she would be willing to have lots of little girls, but Alice has stubbornly refused to tell us anything related to her choice. Can anyone think of some way to discern this? Maybe some kind of magic I've forgotten about?

[anailater]

Or we could just insist, even if she doesn't want to talk about it we can still make her, it's for her own good, Also apart from my ironic spite plan do we have any use for the gift of hideousness?

[Grek]

Where are people getting the idea that Alice is super duper stealthy? She is a good tracker and is deceptive, yes, but she is not especially subtle. Her plan at the retreat was not "I'll sneak in and abduct someone." - that was Gwen who said that. Alice was the one saying, "I'll go on the other side of the retreat and make a huge distraction."

Her actual demonstrated strengths are talking to plants, talking to animals, archery and maybe some other magic that she's just not shown off. The one time she made a stealth roll, it was at a +3 one worse than us and one better than Gwen.

[anailater]

But still flaming wings get rid of any bonus and adds several cons, she will gain the ability to fly and have a one up, but it would be more useful for kids to have that and something else.

[gman8181]

As long as we use immolation gift on a child I'm happy.  Also don't use the best gifts on consorts unless they are very important to us, better to use them on children.

[anailater]

About happy consorts, two things
First can we trust Gwendoline will stay with us seeing as she's about to give birth and stop being completely loyal to us.
And secondly can we use the puppet consort as sort of an emotional punching bag, we order get to both hate her form and us but also tell her to love us, and we tell her to hate eating the remains of dead bodies, but make be unable to stop herself. Of course we would need to put in safe guards, and give her partial free will until she proves herself as truly loyal and we can start giving her some liberties back.

[Thecard]

Can I put something out for future plans, when the baby is born we should ask Gwendoline to examine the mermaids transforming bracelet, it could be incredibly useful if she could recreate it to make us look human, elven and dwarven.

+1

[Ukrainian Ranger]

First can we trust Gwendoline will stay with us seeing as she's about to give birth and stop being completely loyal to us.

I repeat two things:
1) Instincts don't make anyone completely loyal
2) Instincts work until the child is old enough to survive without mother

Alice if she would be willing to have lots of little girls

I can answer that for her. No, she doesn't want to act like a hive mother and turn herself in a baby-making machine. No self respecting woman want that role.

[Corruptor]

I'd like to bring something up.
People keep talking about the Gift of Bloodlust being bad because it would make Alice lose control.
To that I have the following counterargument:
IT DOES NOT DO THAT.
Thank you.

Why do people want to give Alice the Phoenix gift? It pretty much removes the chance of having Phoenix descendants, and also negates Alice's abilities of stealth and existence in flammable environments.

Anyways, I would be fine with giving the Gift of the Left Stone to Alice if she would be willing to have lots of little girls, but Alice has stubbornly refused to tell us anything related to her choice. Can anyone think of some way to discern this? Maybe some kind of magic I've forgotten about?

In that case I wouldn't be opposed to using the Battle-Lust Gift on Alice, but I still attest that the Phoenix Gift would be the best choice. Alice is a ranger, not a rogue - stealth was something she was mildly good at, not her forte.

Alice's orientation makes her unsuited for the Left Stone Gift. We're the last True night troll, we have to think about the continuity of our race.

Well, anyway on the brightside the endless Alice debate will be over one way or another soon lol.

[Thecard]

In that case I wouldn't be opposed to using the Battle-Lust Gift on Alice, but I still attest that the Phoenix Gift would be the best choice. Alice is a ranger, not a rogue - stealth was something she was mildly good at, not her forte.

Yeah, and it would be pretty nifty, wouldn't ya say?

[anailater]

But if she doesn't want to have children, which we are pretty sure she doesn't the phone if gift will end there, if we give it to someone willing to have children we can have the power continue through the line.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

BTW, I change my preference for Alice gift to the Phoenix gift. Having flying archer is a good thing, Alice will be much more free with such gift and Foghorn will like the gift

And one time resurrection is a very nice thing

But first talk to the goddess together with Alice


anailater
No woman will like that: "your only goal is to make babies as I order" unless she is a puppet, mindless zealot or nymphomaniac