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[racnor]

self-diagnosis.

[javierpwn]

There is another way to getout of the situation...

Turning vindel into a night troll sounds elegant,even though it is probably a waste of "gifts"

[GreatWyrmGold]

I don't think Vindel passes the physical...He's probably got an excess of Y chromosomes.

[javierpwn]

More Y chromosomes wouldn't hinder you,nor would it be possible.

However more X chromosomes will, like in the gene sequence XXY you are a Guy who has feminine traits

[GreatWyrmGold]

Face.
Palm.
VINDEL IS A GUY.
WE ARE A GUY.

[javierpwn]

We don't have to impregnate him just to turn him...we could just turn him

Again it is probably a waste of a gift

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Even if that possible. (I am 95% sure that  it's not) Why do you think that turning somebody make him friendly? We haven't tested that

[Mlamlah]

We established at the very start that we need someone to be female to turn them.

[racnor]

and finally, there is no reason to think that the enchantment would be broken.

[javierpwn]

Well, if the enchantment allows vindel to control us, would he still be vinde?

Lawl on my part forminor derail

[Fireiy]

Well, if the enchantment allows vindel to control us, would he still be vinde?

Lawl on my part forminor derail

Yes, he will.

[Iituem]

New tack.  What can we do to cause hurt to his lady love?  Is there any way we can frame her for something unpleasant?   Can we get others to hurt her in some way?  Can we convince her that he killed his rival?

Can we break into her house and hypnotise her?

We might as well make this guy's life a living hell by as indirect a method as we can.  He might snap and do something stupid that way, and even if he doesn't... well, it's vengeance.

[Weirdsound]

New tack.  What can we do to cause hurt to his lady love?  Is there any way we can frame her for something unpleasant?   Can we get others to hurt her in some way?  Can we convince her that he killed his rival?

Can we break into her house and hypnotise her?

We might as well make this guy's life a living hell by as indirect a method as we can.  He might snap and do something stupid that way, and even if he doesn't... well, it's vengeance.

I think the hivemind was already planning to turn her before the PC got captured.

[jaass]

We should scout out the area if you are going to bust into someones house specially someone who has the queen's favor.

[GreatWyrmGold]

New tack.  What can we do to cause hurt to his lady love?  Is there any way we can frame her for something unpleasant?   Can we get others to hurt her in some way?  Can we convince her that he killed his rival?

I like this idea. Maybe once the chaos dies down from the sasquatch, we could disguise ourselves as an elf disguised as a bogeyman and tell her that we saw Vindel kill...the other elf...
No hypnotism. That will be short-lived, and so will we.

We should scout out the area if you are going to bust into someones house specially someone who has the queen's favor.

Agreed.