Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[Eneverforgets]

This may have been partially covered in another thread, but you might consider renaming the title associated with the diagnosis skill from Diagnoser to Physician.  It sounds better, and it's historically accurate.  I suppose it might cause confusion if your Physician didn't set bones, but that's basically how it was historically.

[Ribs]

I think that the medical skills are so divided right now that it wouldn't make a lot of sense to call the diagnosis skill the "Physician" skill, seeing that a being a physician implies other medical skills other than the ability to diagnose a patient.

[Kipi]

Actually, better term would be "Diagnostician". While physician did diagnoses it was only part of the job; treating the patient was big part as well. Diagnostician, on the other hand, is really a person who diagnoses patients.

[dwarfhoplite]

Diagnostician would be the profession but diagnosing is the name of the skill.

[Knight Otu]

Actually, better term would be "Diagnostician". While physician did diagnoses it was only part of the job; treating the patient was big part as well. Diagnostician, on the other hand, is really a person who diagnoses patients.

That's already the term used, actually.

As for physician, I personally feel that in this case clarity should trump flavor. Even if the word diagnostician wasn't used in the time period, it is a perfect description of what they do.

[Kipi]

Actually, better term would be "Diagnostician". While physician did diagnoses it was only part of the job; treating the patient was big part as well. Diagnostician, on the other hand, is really a person who diagnoses patients.

That's already the term used, actually.

... carp!

And here I was, remembering that the profession name actually was Diagnoser... 

Note to self: Check the facts before posting!

[forward]

shouldn't other sort of medical dwarfs have also a diagnosing skill limited to wounds of their field? Bone doctor could see that "yup, that's one messed up femur" and fix it.

If this is actually the case, noob apologises. This is my first post btw, howdy! DF is a bloody 21st century Sistine Chapel.

[Silverionmox]

Personally I think the medical jobs ought to be less separate. Hell, people used to combine barbering and basic healthcare services in medieval and early modern times. It's okay if slight specialization is possible, but AFA task division goes 9 times out of 10 your bonesetter is also going to be your suturer, diagnostician and surgeon. Oddly, a general "nursing" job/skill that just means tend wounds, care for patients, refresh bandages etc. lacks.

[krisslanza]

shouldn't other sort of medical dwarfs have also a diagnosing skill limited to wounds of their field? Bone doctor could see that "yup, that's one messed up femur" and fix it.

If this is actually the case, noob apologises. This is my first post btw, howdy! DF is a bloody 21st century Sistine Chapel.

Well your other medical staff can have Diagonse, the problem is, the way hospital works is they won't do any medical work until the Chief looks at them first. Paperwork man, gotta cover yourself from Dwarven lawsuits!

[dizzyelk]

shouldn't other sort of medical dwarfs have also a diagnosing skill limited to wounds of their field? Bone doctor could see that "yup, that's one messed up femur" and fix it.

If this is actually the case, noob apologises. This is my first post btw, howdy! DF is a bloody 21st century Sistine Chapel.

Well your other medical staff can have Diagonse, the problem is, the way hospital works is they won't do any medical work until the Chief looks at them first. Paperwork man, gotta cover yourself from Dwarven lawsuits!

Especially considering Dwarven lawsuits tend to take the form of physical punishment.

[Sutremaine]

Well your other medical staff can have Diagonse, the problem is, the way hospital works is they won't do any medical work until the Chief looks at them first.

This is not true. The CMD enables extra information on the Health screen if s/he has Novice or better Diagnostician skill, and does nothing else.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well your other medical staff can have Diagonse, the problem is, the way hospital works is they won't do any medical work until the Chief looks at them first.

This is not true. The CMD enables extra information on the Health screen if s/he has Novice or better Diagnostician skill, and does nothing else.

:
It is, however, true that diagnosis needs to precede other medical attention--unless, of course, the medical attention is just feeding and watering the dwarf.

[forward]

I guess that diagnosing feature of different medical skills could become more relevant in the adventure mode after all that medical stuff has been introduced to it.

I get the situation where some Urist McMengele is just observing patients and never even touch them, hence the separate diagnosing skill. However, I think it's a bit strange to have a master surgeon who has no idea of the traumas of patient. It's like a heart specialist would see a guy grabbing his chest and fall in seizure, and just spread his hands and say "I have absolutely no idea. Constipation?".

[Bohandas]

Actually, better term would be "Diagnostician". While physician did diagnoses it was only part of the job; treating the patient was big part as well. Diagnostician, on the other hand, is really a person who diagnoses patients.

That's already the term used, actually.

As for physician, I personally feel that in this case clarity should trump flavor. Even if the word diagnostician wasn't used in the time period, it is a perfect description of what they do.

Seconded