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Waterplouf, and the Submarine Eskimos

5 (13.5%)

Shadowgandor, and the Descendants of Giant Popsicles

0 (0%)

Boksi, and the Climate Change Deniers

4 (10.8%)

a1s, and the Recycled Italians

0 (0%)

Korbac, and the Japanese Porn Industry

12 (32.4%)

Il Palazzo, and the Dreamy Octopi

12 (32.4%)

Bluerobin, and the Power Metal Band

1 (2.7%)

EuchreJack, and the Best Judea

0 (0%)

Karlito, and the Animal Farm

3 (8.1%)

Total Members Voted: 37

[Boksi]

What, Gath wants peace so it can rebuild its army with its brand new fort, completed just this turn?

Well, I'll just let the thread decide. I'll win either way. Attacking independents in former Gath territory doesn't count as war, does it?

@Korbac: You'll need the patch so your game can read the new turn.

[Il Palazzo]

I'm fine with refraining from attacking Atlantis for a while, even though I don't see how they could stop me even if not stalled - all my conquests are underwater, and there's no army there whatsoever.

Anyway, I'm more or less back. I might need an extension or two later on, but otherwise we can play.

[Bluerobin]

I... don't get it. Do you feel that it was unfair that Abysia turned in a turn and you didn't? Or just that it hosted before you could turn in your turn even though you were given 2-3 days notice?  (Edit: This came off ruder/more sarcastic than I meant. I guess just explain the situation a little more because I guess I don't get it right now.) Was there actually some diplomacy going on where Abysia had agreed not to attack but did anyway? Also, in my opinion it's totally not a declaration of war to attack independents in former Gath territory. Perhaps a little rude, but not war.

And welcome back Il Palazzo!

[EuchreJack]

Attacking independents in former Gath territory doesn't count as war, does it?

Of course not.  I have no claim on independent territory, and I don't have the forces to oust independents anyways.

I guess just explain the situation a little more because I guess I don't get it right now.) Was there actually some diplomacy going on where Abysia had agreed not to attack but did anyway?

You're certainly entitled to more of an explanation.  There was no diplomacy between me and Abysia.

My problem was the game being declared "on hold", then not finding out it had started up until after the turn was processed.  Look at my post history: I wasn't even online between Il Palazzo's announcement and yesterday, so how was I to know that the game was restarted?

The whole "demanding peace with Abysia" thing is just the price of my not demanding a rollback.  It's not a request directed at blaming Abysia (although I realize that I originally did just that, for which I'm sorry Boksi), but rather just what I want more than anything in this game.

[Korbac]

I'll send in my turn tonight or tomorrow (I've had a fuckton of tests this week, two so far and a third tomorrow).

The Aby situation complicates things - At least I can hedge my bets on the fact that Pan is out to spank me.

[EuchreJack]

If it's not too much to ask, I'd like to know whether or not Abysia and I are at war during the next turn.  So please don't let the game host before I know this.

[Waterplouf]

Sorry for the absence, I had some busy weeks. I don't need a rollback personally and given the fact that they mess up games I am not really in for one. I can't really say when I will send my turn but it will be in the next 2-3 days.

[EuchreJack]

What, Gath wants peace so it can rebuild its army with its brand new fort, completed just this turn?

Well, I'll just let the thread decide. I'll win either way. Attacking independents in former Gath territory doesn't count as war, does it?

It would be nice if the thread decided something, so me and Abysia could submit our turns.  Poll maybe?

For the sake of continuing, would you be willing to at least agree to a one-turn truce Boksi, just so we both can submit our turns and get things back on track?  Basically, for the turn we're about to submit, we don't fight.  Whether or not that continues for any subsequent turns can be dealt with later.

EDIT: Just to bolster my argument, here are my losses from my missed turn.
1) Capital-only mage.  With my capital in enemy hands, he simply can not be replaced.
2) Starvation in fortress that Pangea is besieging.  I had an Endless Bag of Wine in storage: It could have been completely prevented.
3) Lost territory with lab. Actually, I was wrong, the territory held.  Sorry about that.
4) Failed to stop advance into territory.

Boski might argue that the capital-only mage would have been lost anyways.  But I had a magic weapon in storage which could have bolstered the defenses.  The point isn't that I could or could not do anything: The point is that I never had the chance.

EDIT2: Sorry about the mis-statement of losses.  But that Capital-only mage really was valuable and irreplaceable in my current position.

[Karlito]

I think an enforced truce for a couple turns is a good idea.

[EuchreJack]

Yeah, you're doing alright for yourself, though I'm beginning to move beyond the "hordes of manikin supported by animal-infantry" tactic. We'll see how well you do against the evil brewing in my capital.

Yes, I saw your militia.   

[Karlito]

Yes, I have about 100 satrys (the useless ones without javelins) and militia from that "good" event. I guess they make slightly better spear-catchers than the undead.

[EuchreJack]

Yes, I have about 100 satrys (the useless ones without javelins) and militia from that "good" event. I guess they make slightly better spear-catchers than the undead.

Well, at least priests can't kill them.  I'm not sure if that is a good thing.

[Boksi]

Fine, fine, I'll give you a couple of turns' respite.

[EuchreJack]

Fine, fine, I'll give you a couple of turns' respite.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[Korbac]

Turn sent. Also, Death Gem income *finally* booting up - cheers to whoever gave me those initial gems.

Pan, prepare for an EPILEPTIC SHOWDOWN

that snake was just a test and I doubt my Tengu will fare any better but w/e

Edit: You could always, you know, abandon the siege of Gath's fort, Pan. In which case I would be able to be flanked rather handily...