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[Sutremaine]

Oh come on, those elk birds were like a zillion years old and you weren't even assigned to any of them. They would have died anyway in a couple of years, and this way we get the meat.

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He went from Unhappy (about 26?) to Miserable when I slaughtered the last elk bird (not the masterfully trained one, but one of the exceptionally trained ones), but he's just bounced back up to Very Unhappy (3) so he can't have gone that far into the negatives. But I'm going to cage and release him anyway, because he and one other dwarf have been doing this for half a decade and he's still only at Great. The other trainer has some bad thoughts about losing an animal training partner to tragedy, but not the one about forming a bond. He went down to Fine. Previously the whole fort was Content at worst, so the hit can be significant. Oops.

[crazysheep]

It's probably a new set of thoughts from after the animal training update (the one where you can assign specific trainers to animals).

[lcy03406]

So if i assign a dwarf to tame and train all the animals, when I butcher them, he may go insane?
So I have to butcher them one by one, and ...
The best trait for animal trainer is
...prefer to consume quarry bush leaves and dwarven wine.

[Laurin]

Why would you butcher trained animals anyway?

The only animals worth training into war or hunting animals get assigned to military or outside working dwarves.

All livestock animals never get any training (in my fortress). Usually I also don't train female dogs or grizzly bears or whatever.

[crazysheep]

For !!SCIENCE!!? I know I butchered non-tame trained ravens to get all newborn ravens to be tame.

[lazygun]

You can see if  a dwarf has bonded with an animal on the relationships screen.

I have a fort with a dwarf who bonded to a voracious cave crawler. That and the leopard he has also bonded with are now chained up somewhere away from any kind of danger except the kind that will have already wrecked my fort by the time it reaches them.

[Loud Whispers]

My mayor adopted the resident Giant Desert Scorpion. Not really sure what to make of that.

[lazygun]

Why would you butcher trained animals anyway?

I dunno about the original poster, but I do it because my dwarves never seem to get around to butchering wild animals. It's way more micromanagement to cage wild animals, release them and have my military kill them than to queue up a train animal job and eventually a butcher animal job.

[Scruffy]

I wonder what would happen if the animal trainer was also the butcher?
Urist McButcher took joy in slaughter recently. Lost an animal training partner to tragedy recently. Witnessed a death recently. Forced to endure the decay of an animal training partner recently.

[Sutremaine]

They're not trained for war or hunting, they're trained for non-aggression towards dwarves. They're not tamed either, that's only the offspring. I butchered them because they were getting old and one had died already.

So if i assign a dwarf to tame and train all the animals, when I butcher them, he may go insane?

You don't even need to assign a particular dwarf. I set all animals to 'any trainer'. The bugats and crundles I tamed just to take them to the butcher's shop more easily don't show up on either of the trainers' relationship screens, so a single training session won't result in any bonds.

This guy has more animal friends than dwarven friends. Good job the rest of his bonded animals are either the long-lived sort or have another half a decade in them.

[Quietust]

There were 2 thoughts missing from the wiki, and they've been added: "has lost an animal training partner to tragedy recently" and "formed a bond with an animal training partner recently".

[Sutremaine]

Is that the only two? I also updated the animal training page.

[Maxmurder]

Ive found that caged wild animals wont get butchered unless theyve been trained. I set all new captured wild animals to any trainer and butcher. They get their training and are immediately slaughtered, often by the dwarf who trained them . This gives lots of experience to animal trainers while providing a good supply of bones/meat/leather. IIRC it takes several training sessions for a dwarf to bond to an animal.