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[Reelya]

Alex Jones et al were saying October 2012 for martial law a couple of months ago. I guess they pushed it back. Alex Jones would probably claim "our 'journalism' on the issue exposed their plans, so they had to rethink it".

Infowars.com
August 11, 2012
Martial law is being prepared for a staged banking collapse in the late October.This is a Red Alert!

Only exposing the fact that this is staged will make them back off.

Let’s get to work exposing the Banksters.

Don’t sit around with a bunch of guns talking about some physical confrontation. We don’t want it to go to that.

The pen is mightier than the sword.

Use It!

This is not a game…

it is WAR!!!

Hmmm Alex Jones beat me to it. He already wrote into the scenario that his 'expose' was the only way to avert the disaster.

[Forums User Meat Wizard]

Picking things either from the mouth of Alex Jones or Infowars is pretty low-hanging fruit for the thread. It's better to be surprised by the stupid rather than just expect it.

[Bohandas]

Apparantly the american governement will declare national martial law in 1 or two years and completely take over and murder everybody.

If Romney is elected that sounds about right.

[Flying Dice]

Apparantly the american governement will declare national martial law in 1 or two years and completely take over and murder everybody.

If Romney is elected that sounds about right.

That's being unfair. Malicious incompetence isn't the short track to genocide.

[TheBronzePickle]

It is, just incompetent genocide.

Remember Hitler? You know how there are still Jews around?

[misko27]

It is, just incompetent genocide.

Remember Hitler? You know how there are still Jews around?

He killled 5 million in 6 years. That isn't very inefficient. That's ignoring the number of non-jews he genocided, over 6 million. Total: 11 million.

[Flying Dice]

Hitler executed at a rate of approximately 5023 people per day. During the Yezhovshchina, Stalin only managed around 1000 people per day. Yeah, the bastard was hellishly efficient, in every sense of the word.

[TheBronzePickle]

You raise a good point.

Shows just how ridiculously hard it is to actually pull off a real genocide, I guess. Humans are tough bastards.

[Flying Dice]

Less that, more that you just have to be batshit insane, firmly in control of an internationally significant power, and possess the willingness to drive your nation's economy into the ground for the sole purpose of killing as many people as possible.

So in other words you need to take lessons learned in Europa Universalis, Aurora, and Civilization and apply them to the real world.

[Loud Whispers]

And your people need to follow you. Don't forget that. Hitler didn't individually go around stabbing 11 million people in the face alone.

[TheBronzePickle]

Tell that to the folks that compare everyone to him.

[Simmura McCrea]

And your people need to follow you. Don't forget that. Hitler didn't individually go around stabbing 11 million people in the face alone.

Would've been way more impressive if he had.

[Flying Dice]

That naturally leads to the question: How many people could Hitler have killed between 1939 and 1944 if he had been facestabbing exclusively?

We'll set aside zero hours per day for sleep (he's a busy guy and hopped up on amphetamines to boot), and assume that travel time between victims is nil (the SS is herding the entire population of Europe towards his stabbin' arm). The force needed to crack a human skull can be averaged at around 473N (not going to bother with psi for the sake of a joke in terrible taste). Now, a human can punch with more force than that, but Hitler is a fairly shrimpy guy. Still, he has a knife, so the force will be concentrated on the point. Let's assume 1.5 stabs on average to stab someone to death. Measuring the time it takes for me to deliver 1.5 overhanded stabbing motions gives around 2 seconds. So 0.5 stabbing fatalities per second.

Ignoring actual dates for the sake of simplicity, there are 189216000 seconds in the time period we are considering. That equates to 94,608,000 stabbing deaths over six years. If he slept for 4 hours per day, he would "only" have stabbed 78,840,000 people to death over the time period measured.

The conclusion is obvious, ladies and gentlemen. If Hitler had perpetrated the Holocaust by personally facestabbing people, he would have killed 7.1 times as many people as Nazi Germany did in real life.

I'm so, so sorry. Both for the topic and the terrible, sloppy maths.

[Facekillz058]

That naturally leads to the question: How many people could Hitler have killed between 1939 and 1944 if he had been facestabbing exclusively?

We'll set aside zero hours per day for sleep (he's a busy guy and hopped up on amphetamines to boot), and assume that travel time between victims is nil (the SS is herding the entire population of Europe towards his stabbin' arm). The force needed to crack a human skull can be averaged at around 473N (not going to bother with psi for the sake of a joke in terrible taste). Now, a human can punch with more force than that, but Hitler is a fairly shrimpy guy. Still, he has a knife, so the force will be concentrated on the point. Let's assume 1.5 stabs on average to stab someone to death. Measuring the time it takes for me to deliver 1.5 overhanded stabbing motions gives around 2 seconds. So 0.5 stabbing fatalities per second.

Ignoring actual dates for the sake of simplicity, there are 189216000 seconds in the time period we are considering. That equates to 94,608,000 stabbing deaths over six years.

The conclusion is obvious, ladies and gentlemen. If Hitler had perpetrated the Holocaust by personally facestabbing people, he would have killed 8.6 times as many people as Nazi Germany did in real life.

I'm so, so sorry. Both for the topic and the terrible, sloppy maths.

Don't be sorry, you're a genius!
Someone needs to weaponize this now.

[Flying Dice]

I went back and corrected for sleeping time, because even Hitler needs nappy time between stabbings.