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[delphonso]

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[methylatedspirit]

I stated my desire to be agender (as of this post, I still identify as male; I'll announce my transition to agender here if/when it happens) to my sister, and she asked "What pronouns do you use for someone who identifies as neither male nor female?". That doesn't seem like an easy or terrible question, so... yeah. I'd like an answer to that. My personal view is that they/them works perfectly fine because it makes no reference to gender and are thus universal pronouns, but I'd like to hear differing opinions on that, if any.

[KittyTac]

Just use that and don't worry.

[MrRoboto75]

English kinda lacks a pronoun for a singular genderless person, other than "it" but people typically do not like being an "it".  They/Them is the next best thing, outside of inventing a pronoun for yourself.

[Egan_BW]

TheyThem is perfectly acceptable and has been in use since forever.

[Kagus]

TheyThem is perfectly acceptable and has been in use since forever.

Yeah. Trying to come up with new ones just turns into a Xe/Xer salad.


_{I'm not nearly awake enough to be trying to formulate jokes at this hour}

[scriver]

Xeaxar Salad?

[methylatedspirit]

Is there any system of describing sexuality not relative to own gender? The terms "biromantic" and "heterosexual", which I currently use myself, break down if I were to go agender. Like, what is "heterosexual" even supposed to mean if I don't have a gender? Sexually attracted to genders not your own, which in my case is all of them except agender? In that case, that's just pansexual minus agender, no? But that... huh?! That doesn't match my recorded patterns of attraction at all.

See, the standard system breaks down when talking about nonbinary genders, which I guess is what I'm trying to become. And God help me (not that he would. Intolerant motherfucker. Or maybe my parents are intolerant motherfuckers, and they're just using God as a mouthpiece to "justify" said intolerance) if I were to try to describe attraction to nonbinary people as well. I don't have the slightest clue how you're supposed to describe that.

I could solve the first problem of it making no goddamn sense by specifying it relative to my birth gender, but that feels like a hack. That's probably how I'll describe it to others, but I'm talking about the internal bookkeeping that I'm doing, which can be as complicated as I want. The second problem, describing attraction to nonbinary people, needs a new system to describe it. All I want is a system that's as universal as possible for my own purposes.

I'm probably gonna ask these hard questions as I get to grips with the idea of transitioning. Expect more later on.

[scriver]

I would describe heterosexual as attracted to the other sex, myself.

But if say that bisexual or pansexual would contain what you're getting at. Neither takes your own gender or sex into consideration since they both cover all combinations of attraction to others.

[Egan_BW]

I vaguely recall there being terms for "attracted to man/woman" specifically, but I'm not sure.