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[hops]

Five's a pain in the ass to make symmetrical.

[Avis-Mergulus]

So suppose I really enjoyed the Shadowrun series, but I've played all of the games in it for now (except the Chronicles: Boston one, which has really bad reviews). I also really liked Transistor and VA-11-Hall A recently.
So is there a story-rich post/cyberpunk game that is preferably a turn-based strategy that you would recommend, based on these titles?

[Avis-Mergulus]

You'd do better posting in the 'Recommend me a game' thread in Other Games.

To answer your question: Underrail might be something you'd enjoy.

Oh hey, thanks. I figured there might be a better thread for this, I just forgot what it was.

[Neonivek]

Ok in a novel I read the main character had to go through the desert and was given the advice to take a horse instead of a Camel.

Because while a Camel is more built for the desert it won't show its wear and tear, thirst and hunger as much as a horse will and thus can suddenly die on you unexpectedly.

How true is this?

[TD1]

That's....fairly stupid advice. Sounds like they're saying that camels may last longer, but at least with horses they'll let you know before they fail. I'd assume that in crossing a desert, having a living animal by the end is more desirable than said animal letting you know it's about to collapse in the middle.

Horses need more water and shorter periods between drinks, and they can't walk on sand as well. Plus, they need more grazing - ie grass.

[Frumple]

The sudden dying does look maybe accurate, checking around a bit. Seems sorta' like it's likely to be caused by treating them poorly or ignoring illness, primarily -- the rider basically doing stuff to them that causes their body to go into shock and stop working. Also looks like horses will keel over and die to similar treatment, though, and have all sorts of pretty substantial disadvantages in low-water terrain. And camels still have plenty of signs you're pushing them too hard, they're just, y'know. Not the exact same ones horses have. Do seem a bit less expressive, so maybe the horses giving more obvious signs are accurate, but other than that, it's... fairly bad advice. And a fairly deceptive description of the way of things besides.

Guess what it comes down to is they look like they can go from standing to dead pretty quick, but there wouldn't be anything unexpected about it unless you were a blind idiot that has no idea how to take care of your animal, and even in that case the only one that would be surprised is you. And anyone else similarly impaired, I guess.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Yeah, that's dumb. Most animals are ridiculously fragile, but horses are fragile even by those standards. I'm not riding a horse into a desert in lieu of a camel unless I see a hundred locals doing the same thing.

[Avis-Mergulus]

Yeah, that's dumb. Most animals are ridiculously fragile, but horses are fragile even by those standards. I'm not riding a horse into a desert in lieu of a camel unless I see a hundred locals doing the same thing.

I would think that seeing a hundred locals ride out of a desert on horses would do more to convince me than seeing a hundred locals ride in.

[Frumple]

I'd be more concerned about what the non-locals are riding out of the desert on, myself.

[TD1]

More concern would be directed towards why no non-locals are emerging from the desert at all....

[Avis-Mergulus]

Max concern would be a hundred non-locals going into the desert on horses, then a hundred locals emerging on the same horses.

[Frumple]

No, no. Hundred non-locals going in on horses and a hundred locals coming out on camels dragging quite a lot of meat.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

All wrong. A hundred locals going into the desert on horses and a hundred different locals coming out on camels.

[TD1]

No no, you're wrong too. A hundred non-locals going in riding horses and a hundred camels coming out riding locals.

[Dozebôm Lolumzalěs]

No no, you're wrong too. A hundred non-locals going in riding horses and a hundred camels coming out riding locals.

No! A hundred localities entering horses!