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Total Members Voted: 20

[misko27]

Yeah, and we've kinda settled on mars. I mean think about it, imagine how expensive a attack on mars would be, yet imagine how it's possible if only enough crazy people wanted to do it!

[GreatWyrmGold]

Pluto is practically the worst place we could put a base. No resources, far from the sun (less energy available and more needed), no igneous activity, nowhere near Earth (meaning we need to e self-sufficient from the start and won't be able to invade Earth easily)...

Anyways, the moon ha great advantages. We can launch a sneak attack. Build some big railguns and prepare them; we can fire enough rounds to terrify them (and ideally cripple their military fleets), demand surrender, and ready a round of shots that would destroy their big cities or military bases in case they send someone up without our permission. We'd be able to see them before they could react, and there's no way they could react fast enough to a bunch of big rocks. If they acted, hundreds of millions could die.
Then we surprise everyone by using our world domination well. We'll do better than what at least half the world is used to, which is actually a pretty low bar to jump over.

Yeah, and we've kinda settled on mars. I mean think about it, imagine how expensive a attack on mars would be, yet imagine how it's possible if only enough crazy people wanted to do it!

I still don't get why. Any attack from Mars gives the groundhogs every advantage we would have attacking from Luna--time, seeing our ships before they could make it, etc.

[Jbg97]

Well then why not colonize Mercury? Place solar panels on the side that always faces the Sun, then on the dark side you can have the colonies that mine the iron core. I mean, Mercury is basically a massive ball of iron; With that we could build fleets upon fleets of ships.

[Vorthon]

There's a lot more to ships than just iron. And Mercury isn't tidally locked; It's got a spin-orbit resonance.

[Jbg97]

Mercury has a lot better resources than the Moon.

[misko27]

It's also unlivable because of a little thing known as the SUN.. And the diffculty of gettign there is even greater then mars.

[Vorthon]

Mercury has a lot better resources than the Moon.

That's true, but it's also not as advantageous a location (See: GWG's arguments against Mars), and it's deeper in the Sun's gravity well. More expensive (in terms of reaction mass, etc.) to move ships around.

Also: Iron is kind of a crappy material to build ships out of. You want light and sturdy. Not heavy.

It's also unlivable because of a little thing known as the SUN.. And the diffculty of gettign there is even greater then mars.

One could colonize Mercury if one didn't mind living underground. Deep underground.

[misko27]

We barely have the resources for a surface colony!

[Jbg97]

Warp drive. Rounded donut of exotic matter spinning incredibly fast contracts spactime in front of the ship and expands spacetime behind it, with it you can go 10 times the speed of light. Provided you can generate energy equal to the mass of the Voyager probe. Resources? Not a problem when you can ferry tons of stuff from Earth to the colonies in about 2 minutes round trip.
http://news.yahoo.com/warp-drive-may-more-feasible-thought-scientists-161301109.html
Potentially made of exotic matter.

[Vorthon]

That would require exotic matter. Which nobody has. And may not exist. And even if it does, it may not exist in sufficient quantities, even for one ship.

Also: There's a 'modify' button. Use it.

[misko27]

WE don;t have any of that stuff. One could feasibly create a martian colony with current technology.

[10ebbor10]

Problems with Mercury are threefold:
-Way to hot (at day)
-Way to cold (at night)
-Way to much radiation (always)

Also, mercury has a large iron core, but you still need to dig through 600 kilometers of stone. Also, said core is liquid.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well then why not colonize Mercury? Place solar panels on the side that always faces the Sun, then on the dark side you can have the colonies that mine the iron core. I mean, Mercury is basically a massive ball of iron; With that we could build fleets upon fleets of ships.

Too hot, too far from Earth.

Warp drive. Rounded donut of exotic matter spinning incredibly fast contracts spactime in front of the ship and expands spacetime behind it, with it you can go 10 times the speed of light. Provided you can generate energy equal to the mass of the Voyager probe. Resources? Not a problem when you can ferry tons of stuff from Earth to the colonies in about 2 minutes round trip.
http://news.yahoo.com/warp-drive-may-more-feasible-thought-scientists-161301109.html
Potentially made of exotic matter.

A problem not mentioned: Warp drives are more efficient than thought, but they still need a lot of energy.

[TopHat]

We barely have the resources for a surface colony!

We don't have the resources for any colony.

[misko27]

Yes but it is cocievable we could get them. There isn't even technology for mercury, and that's assuming we are in control of a First-world nation, let alone a third world.