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Total Members Voted: 20

[10ebbor10]

I've been thinking about terraforming, and my mind keeps wandering back to 'keep walloping mars with asteroids'. That, or factories designed to produce rather strong greenhouse gases.

Martian ice, as well as the soil  contains large amounts of carbon dioxide. We just need a little push to set of a positive feedback system

[Vorthon]

I'm familiar with all that. I'm just considering multiple possibilities. And because the asteroid option might provide an excuse the set up outposts in the asteroid belt.

[misko27]

Considering we will end up havng factories for non-terraforming reasons anyway, shouldn't be too hard to just make it as inefficient as possible, and release all carbon into the atmosphere. Besides we will be establishing outposts on asteroids anyway, so no reason to care whether or not we have a reason.

[10ebbor10]

Considering we will end up havng factories for non-terraforming reasons anyway, shouldn't be too hard to just make it as inefficient as possible, and release all carbon into the atmosphere. Besides we will be establishing outposts on asteroids anyway, so no reason to care whether or not we have a reason.

There are most likely no fossil fuels* on Mars, so there's nothing we can burn. After all, nuclear power doesn't produce greenhouse gasses, nor does hydrogen. (Actually, water does, since it is a greenhouse gas.)

*Since that would have required quite complex life, for a long amount of time.

[Vorthon]

Martian soil could, in theory, be converted into greenhouses gasses which are a lot more potent that CO₂, IIRC.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We also need O₂.

[10ebbor10]

We also need O₂.

Oxygen can be easily gathered from a variety of sources. If we're talking about oxygen for planetary terraforming, just drop some cyanobacteria, and let them do the rest.

[GoombaGeek]

We also need O₂.

[Vorthon]

We also need O₂.

Oxygen can be easily gathered from a variety of sources. If we're talking about oxygen for planetary terraforming, just drop some cyanobacteria, and let them do the rest.

And some lichen to break down rocks into soil.

[GreatWyrmGold]

We also need O₂.

Oxygen can be easily gathered from a variety of sources. If we're talking about oxygen for planetary terraforming, just drop some cyanobacteria, and let them do the rest.

Could cyanobacteia survive on...that's a silly question, bacteria can survive anywhere.

[Helgoland]

Yeah, but owuldnt it be alot easier to put a bigass cannon on rock B to shoot ship A?

Not if Rock B is controlled by the enemy.

Then why would we want to stop the ship from reaching it. We should have stopped it when it departed.

And if Rock A is also under the enemy's control? We would basically need spacefighting capabilities to lay siege to outposts.

[Draconik_Sankis]

Greenhouse gasses can come from heavy industry, such as turning the iron oxide rich soil of mars into good quality steel, with nuclear reactors providing power for the colony at large.

As far as oxygen goes well we have three options.  1: Trees and other decorative plant-life converts carbon dioxide into oxygen. 2: Farm based crops (wheat, hops, barley, rye, etc) convert Carbon Dioxide into oxygen and provides food.  3. Considering that the most common gas on mars is Carbon Dioxide setting up a filter base system to filter Carbon from the carbon dioxide (leaving the oxygen) and using Carbon in either said steel industry or to construct Carbon fiber, or Carbon nanotubes.

[misko27]

Unfrotnately al plans are ignoring a vital flaw. Airpressure. There is a lot less Atmosphere on mars then earth, so terraforimig will almost making all of it ourselves. Theres no point in trying if there isn't enough air and we suffocate.

[GoombaGeek]

Unfrotnately al plans are ignoring a vital flaw. Airpressure. There is a lot less Atmosphere on mars then earth, so terraforimig will almost making all of it ourselves. Theres no point in trying if there isn't enough air and we suffocate.

That's why everyone has been talking about creating large amounts of greenhouse gases. As long as you can survive with a scuba suit instead of a pressure suit within your lifetime you're doing surprisingly well.

[10ebbor10]

Yeah, there's a reason the plan for terraforming Mars is called 1500 year plan.

Most plant life and such can survive at much lower pressures, as can we. We just have trouble breathing, among some other things.