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Labor camp

4 (20%)

List of choices (would you like to be killed by woodchipper, firing squad, gascambers...)

8 (40%)

Choose how to die (with restrictions, or course, no "I want to be nuked in the dining hall")

6 (30%)

Generic Lethal injection

1 (5%)

Electroshock

0 (0%)

Life in prison

0 (0%)

Other (Specify)

1 (5%)

No opinion

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 20

[brainfreez]

PLOT TWIST ! *the evil  twin brother of brainfreez has arrived !*

[TopHat]

PLOT TWIST ! *the evil sane  twin brother of brainfreez has arrived !*

Fixed it for you.

[brainfreez]

aaaaaah ! i was burning some crap and then a can exploded and hot plastic flew in my eye .

[Helgoland]

That's some weird digestive problem you're having, crapping plastic

[WaffleEggnog]

By the way, am I a official Bay12 celebrity for starting this yet?

[brainfreez]

you just created the thread , Misko and king started this .

Damn i am idiot (because i threw a can in fire) !
i knew that the pressure will make it explode .

[misko27]

you just created the thread , Misko and king started this .

Damn i am idiot (because i threw a can in fire) !
i knew that the pressure will make it explode .

Now I need to do that.

Yeah, you need to add someting very worthwhile to the prject. like how brainfreez added, uh, um, Weirdness.

[brainfreez]

That's some weird digestive problem you're having, crapping plastic

It was fun , untill my eye was full with plastic .

i like to risk .

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

To: Zanzethuken the great.
Subject: police dept.
Message:
Why can't the police be a sub-division of the army? Then it can remain under your guidance and you can still help (and be a member of) M.A.D.P.L.A.N.S? Just think of an appropriate acronym, and be listed as a sub-department.

To: TopHat
Subject: police dept.
Message:
While your idea within your prior message would possibly work, I would prefer a man of a fair amount of sanity and morality in charge.  While I would still be in command of the department, I would still be subservient to yourself, a man of questionable sanity and morals.  Therefore, I would rather it be created as a separate organization so that it would be a more-sane mind that oversees the punishment of those who attempt to create chaos, and be more immune to corruption.

To: Zanzethuken the great
Subject: RE:police dept.
Message: Fair enough. You never know with Bay12.
Expect full support from M.A.D.P.L.A.N.S. for officers in the field / any other matters I can help with.
Remember that my offer is still open indefinitely in case you change your mind.

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To:TopHat
Subject: Re:police dept.
Message:
I am glad you understand my viewpoint.  I am glad that there will be support from an already existing agency, and will gladly accept any assistance.  Do not worry, I shall keep that offer noted, just in case it is needed within the future.

Also, do not forget that the name is spelled "Zanzetkuken" not "Zanhetkuken."  We don't want any messages between our departments to get lost!

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Also, do not forget that

As far as I could see, this thread is a boon and a bane.
A boon because it could be something to preserve, history to show our future citizens.
In the short term, however, it's a bane for the reasons voiced by Corai.
We could destroy the threads, print off a few pages each, take them to our colony, then put them together and recreate the thread in full for future generations to gaze upon.
Also: astronaut training. Does anyone know how to fly a spaceship? Spacewalk? Put on a spacesuit?

This is true, but I do not have the ink to print the thread, but would it not be better to place the pages within a flash drive so that the quality of the pages is maintained?

I believe that someone on the forum may need to go through that training to tell the rest of us what needs to be done in those cases.

(Also I suggest combining the military and police and closely linking them to the secret police and the intelligence agency so that we will be able to efficiently abuse our governmental power)

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To: Helgoland
Subject: Governmental forces
Message:
I will quote the reasons why I think this is a poor idea from a message I sent to TopHat, due to it applying to you as well.

While your idea within your prior message would possibly work, I would prefer a man of a fair amount of sanity and morality in charge.  While I would still be in command of the department, I would still be subservient to yourself, a man of questionable sanity and morals.  Therefore, I would rather it be created as a separate organization so that it would be a more-sane mind that oversees the punishment of those who attempt to create chaos, and be more immune to corruption.

As you can see, I believe that there should be separate organizations to keep tabs upon each other to for the organizations to keep tabs and check upon others to prevent those from abusing power, something that I am against.  This also has a basis in fact that if a government abuses power, the citizens will revolt, leading to something similar to the French Revolution or the more recent Arab Spring.  Within a colony of the bay forum, the number of insane people would make abuse a poor idea indeed.

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[misko27]

"Misko27 has mandated the creation of a research committee"

Description: "My fellow citizens, it has come to my attention that there is far too much jockeying for position and back-room dealing among our bueracrats, and not enough progress planning the actual program. This threatens both to undermine the authority of the state and to push ever-further back the date of the establishment of the colony. This is unacceptable. While public censure might be a far more effective measure of ending the practice, It would not help planning and would only further decrease our scarce manpower. Therefore, I have decides to appoint the following to a research committee to find solutions to our current problems as previously stated by President DZA: Zanzatkukun, Tophat, and Helgoland. Participation is required unless sufficient reason  is given. The following are invited but not attendace by them is not required: greatwyrmgold, 10ebbor10, darkrider2, and slowpokez. I hope to see much progress from this group. In conclusion: All hail DZA"

[WaffleEggnog]

I'm not invited?

Anyway, if you guys are unaware, there is a thread in the modding forum on this. I just thought to myself; If we were able to duplicate space and our projects in DF, it would be immensely usefull. Rather then spending millions on tests and such in real life, we could actually use DF as a sort of simulation to test our projects too make sure that they don't fail, with no risk involved at all!

Or we could just abandon the idea of modding DF if it doesn't work, and make our own simulation from scratch!

Genius! What do you guys think?

Edit;
I locked up the poll for now (no one liked my idea   ). Any ideas on what the next poll should be? Also, in case you havint noticed, I'm back from vacation, woooo.... So I'm going to be more involved then I have been for the last week. Sorry bout that span of inactivity!

[Corai]

Horrific torture: legal way of executing traitors?

[Slayerhero90]

Cannabalism: Acceptable or no?

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Therefore, I have decides to appoint the following to a research committee to find solutions to our current problems as previously stated by President DZA: Zanzatkukun, Tophat, and Helgoland.

Was that supposed to be a comma?  If not, how are we problems if these are all of the messages sent?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

To: Zanzethuken the great.
Subject: police dept.
Message:
Why can't the police be a sub-division of the army? Then it can remain under your guidance and you can still help (and be a member of) M.A.D.P.L.A.N.S? Just think of an appropriate acronym, and be listed as a sub-department.

To: TopHat
Subject: police dept.
Message:
While your idea within your prior message would possibly work, I would prefer a man of a fair amount of sanity and morality in charge.  While I would still be in command of the department, I would still be subservient to yourself, a man of questionable sanity and morals.  Therefore, I would rather it be created as a separate organization so that it would be a more-sane mind that oversees the punishment of those who attempt to create chaos, and be more immune to corruption.

To: Zanzethuken the great
Subject: RE:police dept.
Message: Fair enough. You never know with Bay12.
Expect full support from M.A.D.P.L.A.N.S. for officers in the field / any other matters I can help with.
Remember that my offer is still open indefinitely in case you change your mind.

To:TopHat
Subject: Re:police dept.
Message:
I am glad you understand my viewpoint.  I am glad that there will be support from an already existing agency, and will gladly accept any assistance.  Do not worry, I shall keep that offer noted, just in case it is needed within the future.

Also, do not forget that the name is spelled "Zanzetkuken" not "Zanhetkuken."  We don't want any messages between our departments to get lost!

To: Helgoland
Subject: Governmental forces
Message:
I will quote the reasons why I think this is a poor idea from a message I sent to TopHat, due to it applying to you as well.

While your idea within your prior message would possibly work, I would prefer a man of a fair amount of sanity and morality in charge.  While I would still be in command of the department, I would still be subservient to yourself, a man of questionable sanity and morals.  Therefore, I would rather it be created as a separate organization so that it would be a more-sane mind that oversees the punishment of those who attempt to create chaos, and be more immune to corruption.

As you can see, I believe that there should be separate organizations to keep tabs upon each other to for the organizations to keep tabs and check upon others to prevent those from abusing power, something that I am against.  This also has a basis in fact that if a government abuses power, the citizens will revolt, leading to something similar to the French Revolution or the more recent Arab Spring.  Within a colony of the bay forum, the number of insane people would make abuse a poor idea indeed.

Horrific torture: legal way of executing traitors?

I would say no to this, due to how barbaric that is.

Cannabalism: Acceptable or no?

I would say no to this, for the same reasons that I gave in response to Corai.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Holy carp, I leave for a week and way too many more pages get added. I'll try to catch up.

Why have I not been added to the OP as the F.O.R.G.O.T.E.N.B.E.A.S.T. yet?

Horrific torture: legal way of executing traitors?

[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_X:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
I'd say not. Couldn't we upload their minds to some harmless computer and dissect the data within at our leisure?

Cannabalism: Acceptable or no?

In emergencies, but usually the metal in the bodies should be reclaimed, and the organic stuff should be used as fertilizer. Less disapproval from the Terrans pre-invasion, and I hear human meat tastes like stringy pork at best anyways.