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Author Topic: The Gay Panic Defence - Queensland, and why murdering gays isn't murder  (Read 15157 times)

MetalSlimeHunt

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Furthermore, excessive debating is what we do here.
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Often debates on these topics aren't strictly about 'winning' but for the fence sitters, the lurkers. ggamer may very well be stuck in his archaic unsubstantiated views and unable or unwilling to drop them, buts not really about him.
Furthermore, excessive debating is what we do here.

I do understand. It's an excellent topic to debate because it's shaping the modern world right now, and I'm not trying to dissuade that. However, all too often around here I see these kinds of subjects very quickly become "attack threads" where people looking for a good debate are lost amidst the straight-up or veiled hate/insult posts.

It's a fine line and it's everyone's responsibility to walk it. Wait... no, that's not how that saying goes.

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You're spoiler link is bad. It says I dont have permissions to view the directory.
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Oh huh, I got it off of google search and can see it. In that case, it's just Uncle Ben's catch phrase.
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I kind of feel bad for calling ggamer out now.
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Don't read the comments on the other side of that Change.org link. Just don't. I know, you're probably curious now but I take no responsibility for what it will do to your brain if you click that damn link.

I just did that. Ohgodwhy.
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Damn you, now I'm going to have to read them.
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...I just don't know what to say. "I had no idea AIDS was a gay disease". How can people this dumb operate computers?
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ggamer has made it clear that he doesn't want to debate this. Stop trying to debate him on it.

If he didn't then he shouldn't have declared his stance against gay people in a thread discussing a law that devalues their lives.
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This news makes me sick... this is bloody 2012 and laws like this still exist in a modern society... I am bi, and I know a few full out gays, and fuck am I glad I was born in a society where religious nutjobs don't have much influence.
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That article has one of the most brutal demonstrations of Poe's law I've ever seen.

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Oh Queensland...


I will definitely agree that in some ways at least my country is quite backward. Here in Victoria we've started getting mail from one Daniel Nalliah, a Young Earth Creationist who argues that anything non Christian is the 'devil's strongholds' and must be pulled down.

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Debate? Where?

Look everyone, there is no debate here. The dude spoke his opinion and gave no points on which to debate. Calling him out on that and labeling your attacks as "debate" is ridiculous and shameful. If you want to change ggamer's opinion, extend a hand, don't punch him.
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Okay, as much as I do dislike trying to direct a thread's discussion if I don't feel it's necessary, let's not make this thread a debate about whether or not people trying to debate ggamer were right to do so or went about it in the right way. He bowed out, whether or not you think it was graceful, and I think at this point it's taking the thread in an ugly direction.
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