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[martinuzz]

So apparently the CERN team found deviations in their measurements of the LHC accelerator (more accurately, measurements on the decay of B-mesons), that could imply the existance of not only another new particle, the Z'-particle, which would be about a 1000 times heavier than a proton, but could even imply the existance of another fundamental force of physics

[Putnam]

Here's the wikipedia article. I don't understand it.

Though apparently it's not an entirely new force so much as the unification of the electromagnetic and weak interactions?

[MonkeyHead]

So apparently the CERN team found deviations in their measurements of the LHC accelerator (more accurately, measurements on the decay of B-mesons), that could imply the existance of not only another new particle, the Z'-particle, which would be about a 1000 times heavier than a proton, but could even imply the existance of another fundamental force of physics

Sounds like early tentative evidence for a form of Supersymmetry to me.

Here's the wikipedia article. I don't understand it.

Though apparently it's not an entirely new force so much as the unification of the electromagnetic and weak interactions?

More or less. Think of them as Suppersymmetric particles that happen to unify the electro and weak interactions.

[Putnam]

Ooh, so we're narrowing down which models of reality that we have are the most accurate pretty efficiently right now.

[MonkeyHead]

Ooh, so we're narrowing down which models of reality that we have are the most accurate pretty efficiently right now.

Well, we are working out which ones are least wrong. The problem with Supersymmetry is that it at one and the same time both works, and is a total failure. We know it is wrong somewhere for some reason. It will be fun finding out where.

[Sergarr]

imply the existance of another fundamental force of physics

Well this certainly fucks up about 95% of existing theories about everything.

Yay!

[Putnam]

imply the existance of another fundamental force of physics

Well this certainly fucks up about 95% of existing theories about everything.

Yay!

not really though

the standard model doesn't take into account dark matter at all, AFAIK, unless of course dark matter happens to be some sort of weird neutrino

In fact, that would fuck up practically nothing, in much the same way discovering general relativity didn't fuck up the heliocentric model of the solar system.

[Sergarr]

not really though

the standard model doesn't take into account dark matter at all, AFAIK, unless of course dark matter happens to be some sort of weird neutrino

given that neutrino are so weird they mutate into each other through arcane magic, dark matter could certainly be a type of neutrino.

[miauw62]

Recently found this site about how to easily visualize 4D objects. It's by far the most helpful site on the topic that I've found so far, so I figured I'd post it here for your entertainment.

Site (The other sections below the visualization one cover more specific 4D shapes as opposed to just how to read the projections).

I finally somewhat understand o-o

[wierd]

Unification of weak and electro-weak could be interesting. It would suggest possible relations between other forces, perhaps even electromagnetic and other domains, which could have interesting technological ramifications.

(a conjured up example: Neutrino bombardment can speed up radio-decay of unstable atoms, but neutrino interaction rates are very low, because they have very low mass, and no charge. However, if they interact strongly with some other force carrier particle that also interacts with electromagnetism, we can corral, confine, and focus neutrinos using the proxy carrier particles. Likewise, we could have vastly improved detection equipment to measure neutrino counts. This would lead to much better particle physics equipment, and to a possible way to decontaminate reactor waste. Not saying such a particle exists, but supersymmetrical particles, if real, could offer such solutions at high energies.)

[Askot Bokbondeler]

ptw

[Sergarr]

Carbon nanotube fibers make superior links to brain.

Carbon why are you so good

[hops]

Carbon op

Adminllah pls nerf

[Darvi]

Carborgs when?

[Levi]

Dunno about you guys, but I'm already 18% carbon.  Its pretty much as awesome as it sounds.