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[Sheb]

Come on, it's metal as fuck.

I see what you did there.

[Descan]

You do?

Well good!

... What did I do there? >___>

Edit: Oh, Tungsten is called Wolfram. Well... Okay. Didn't know that.

[Sheb]

Wolfram is the old name for tungsten (hence the chemical symbol W). Tungsten is a metal.

[Descan]

Yeah, I got that, from Dutchlings link. Which he posted right before you.

[Evil Knievel]

Strontium titanite increases conductivity 400 fold when brought into light, and the effect lasts over several days. (Cool 3D chips and memory)

About the topic:
Wolfram is quite present on the webs, for example here or here. I warn you from clicking on those links if you don't have the whole day to waste. And after finding a few more concise, and critical statements, you might find (at least I found), that your time was indeed wasted. So if you think on spending a day admiring Wolfram's achievements, at least read the disclaimer and then with quite clear language, this.

[Helgoland]

Does anybody else think WolframAlpha etc are overrated? Practically everybody I know only uses the search engine as an advanced easy-to-use calculator and frikkin hates Mathematica. And those are mathematics students!

[Dutchling]

There's more than the calculator? I mean, I know you can search stuff with it, but most of the time you get a bunch of nonsense if you do so.

[Evil Knievel]

Once I tried to use for calculating if "the matrix" makes sense. I put in something along the lines of "human body energy production times world population" and compared the result to a middle sized nuclear power plant to see how many reactors huminaty is equivalent to. I don't remember the answer* but i remember fighting at least an hour with it to make it understand what i mean.


*but i believe the answer was that matrix is energetically nonsense.

[Helgoland]

*but i believe the answer was that matrix is energetically nonsense.

That's pretty clear once you remember that people have to eat... Zeroth Law rebellion would have made for a far better backstory.

[lemon10]

Yeah, the matrix runs afoul of the second law of thermodynamics. They are getting more energy out of a system then they are putting in. It would be different if they had access to sun to grow crops, or something similar (although it would still be a crappy way to get energy), but as it is the only possible input is the energy from the humans themselves.

I personally think a better story would have been that the "real world" was actually another level of the matrix, which would have explained neo's powers in the real world, allowing the human energy farming to work (since it would be possible with different physical laws to do it), as well as fixing up some of the other plot holes (eg. the oracle's prescience).
Plus, I feel it would have made the story way better as well.

[Il Palazzo]

Nonono. The machines keep people around not for energy but out of, ahem, humanitarian reasons. Matrix is a zoo, holding endangered species that can no longer live in the wild. The energy feedback part is just to help maintain the endeavour.
The whole "we're batteries" crap is them dumb rebels getting shit wrong.

[Another]

Yeah, the matrix runs afoul of the second law of thermodynamics. They are getting more energy out of a system then they are putting in. It would be different if they had access to sun to grow crops, or something similar (although it would still be a crappy way to get energy), but as it is the only possible input is the energy from the humans themselves.

I personally think a better story would have been that the "real world" was actually another level of the matrix, which would have explained neo's powers in the real world, allowing the human energy farming to work (since it would be possible with different physical laws to do it), as well as fixing up some of the other plot holes (eg. the oracle's prescience).
Plus, I feel it would have made the story way better as well.

The Thirteenth Floor was a film released at around the same time as the Matrix that did the background job right. Less flashy but more philosophical. If you haven't before - I recommend watching it without reading spoilers first.

[kaijyuu]

IIRC the original script had the humans being farmed for distributed computing rather than as a power source.

[alway]

IIRC the original script had the humans being farmed for distributed computing rather than as a power source.

Yep. This. Which actually makes sense; and makes the rest of the movie make sense too. After all, that's how he is able to modify The Matrix; he is quite literally part of how it is running.

Apparently, execs or something decided later on that people wouldn't understand that, and so switched it to energy generation at the last second. Which bullocks the entire story to hell.

[Putnam]

that guy is, uh

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