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Yes -- in fact, the Spawn are too easy right now, and this is exactly what they need.

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Yes, but weaken them in other areas to compensate.

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Yes, but only fix fatal decapitations.

4 (66.7%)

Yes, but only fix spinal damage.

1 (16.7%)

No, they're fine as-is. It doesn't bother me much.

1 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 6

[Mr Frog]

This is intended as a general repository for any mods I make that I deem worthy of shitting up other peoples' raw/ folders. Feel free to report malfunctions, balancing issues, and other disappointments.

Mods for Version 34x:

Spawn of Holistic: The Detective's children rise again! (Now with Greater Spawn!)

Maej: A new species playable in Fortress Mode. Most notable feature is the restriction of labours and positions by caste. Still needs balancing.

Banshees: A new hostile race for Fortress Mode. Can harm dwarves through walls, making turtling a very bad idea. Untested, so expect weirdness.


Mods for Version 40x:

Trash Golems: A new semimegabeast for Fortress Mode. Spews poison everywhere.

[Aseaheru]

Now to find my desktop.....




yay isint moving !!FUN!!?

[Lurking Grue]

Its like adding a Nightmare Difficulty setting to the game. 

[Mr Frog]

Yeah, you really have to haul ass with the defenses if you don't want to get shredded. I'd make the Spawn arrive later if I didn't find the mad dash to get an effective military set up so perversely enjoyable.

I think I should also mention that Spawn are immune to death by magma. They do burn, but that just makes them more deadly.

Spoiler: Actually something of a spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT: Also, the Spawn's "Special Surprise" only works on vanilla dwarves. Any other species *cough*Maej*cough* will still be ripped to shreds, but only dwarves get the Special Surprise. Modded dwarves might still be Surprised so long as you don't add or remove any castes.

[Aseaheru]

we must start a fortress on this.
and i know about Spearbreakers, but we might PLAN this one a bit.

also, WHERE I PUT THE FILES?!>!>!

[Revanchist]

Ahh... Holistic Spawn... You Killed Sirocco you evil beasts! How FUN.

[Aseaheru]

i like your quote.
and yes, FUN.

[Revanchist]

i like your quote.
and yes, FUN.

Which quote? I like them all, but that's just me. I agree that our Holy Book (the in-game guide) should be followed... So yes. !!FUN!!

Also, having paused DF to anticipate the update, how much of a nightmare do these Holistics make the dwarves fort?

[Mr Frog]

Well, there's additional info in the link, but here's a rundown:

• Spawn do not bleed nor breathe and their brains don't do anything. They only die when their hearts are destroyed, they are chopped in half, or (due to an oversight) they are beheaded.
• Spawn don't feel pain.
• Due to their lack of bleeding and obsidian hearts, immersion in magma does next to nothing to Spawn. I think it does slow them down due to their legs being injured, but it has the nasty side-effect of lighting them on fire virtually-forever (I'm considering making them flat-out fireproof, as there really isn't any way to combat that when it happens).
• Spawn have TRAPAVOID and LOCKPICKER (BUILDINGDESTROYER led to pathing errors, sadly), so most passive defense methods don't work.
• Spawn have no weapons, but they can bite through armour with frightening efficiency due to natural skill and force multipliers.
• Spawn begin to attack roughly at the same time as goblins.

Spoiler: Finally, the SPECIAL SURPRISE (click to show/hide)

If a Spawn successfully pierces into flesh when biting a dwarf, the dwarf becomes infected with a syndrome that may result in them permanently turning into a crazed Spawn a few months later. Dwarves have a roughly 25% chance of turning, though an odd save/load bug means that saving and reloading between a dwarf being bitten and the point where the dwarf possibly turns guarantees that they will go Spawn. Note that the initial bite has to break the skin to infect dwarves; further damage from latching on after biting does not pass the syndrome.

[Revanchist]

Well, there's additional info in the link, but here's a rundown:

• Spawn do not bleed nor breathe and their brains don't do anything. They only die when their hearts are destroyed, they are chopped in half, or (due to an oversight) they are beheaded.
• Spawn don't feel pain.
• Due to their lack of bleeding and obsidian hearts, immersion in magma does next to nothing to Spawn. I think it does slow them down due to their legs being injured, but it has the nasty side-effect of lighting them on fire virtually-forever (I'm considering making them flat-out fireproof, as there really isn't any way to combat that when it happens).
• Spawn have TRAPAVOID and LOCKPICKER (BUILDINGDESTROYER led to pathing errors, sadly), so most passive defense methods don't work.
• Spawn have no weapons, but they can bite through armour with frightening efficiency due to natural skill and force multipliers.
• Spawn begin to attack roughly at the same time as goblins.

Spoiler: Finally, the SPECIAL SURPRISE (click to show/hide)

If a Spawn successfully pierces into flesh when biting a dwarf, the dwarf becomes infected with a syndrome that may result in them permanently turning into a crazed Spawn a few months later. Dwarves have a roughly 25% chance of turning, though an odd save/load bug means that saving and reloading between a dwarf being bitten and the point where the dwarf possibly turns guarantees that they will go Spawn. Note that the initial bite has to break the skin to infect dwarves; further damage from latching on after biting does not pass the syndrome.

Quick Question. Are you sane? That's far worse than anything I would do to my poor dwarves. Those things are Ragnarok proofed!
My closing comment: I shall now turn attempt to use one as an adventurer. Kudos on the strange mood.

[Sirus]

Watching, because I always wanted the Spawn in my games

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, there's additional info in the link, but here's a rundown:

• Spawn do not bleed nor breathe and their brains don't do anything...
  

The brains-not-working bit sounds like normal dwarves.

Weren't these things in...Syrupleaf, I think?[/list]

[Corai]

Well, there's additional info in the link, but here's a rundown:

• Spawn do not bleed nor breathe and their brains don't do anything...
  

The brains-not-working bit sounds like normal dwarves.

Weren't these things in...Syrupleaf, I think?[/list]

They were first introduced to DF in Syrupleaf. Then the raws got lost when megaupload died I think, then Mr. Frog recreated them.

[Mr Frog]

@Revan:

Ragnarok-proofed, they are XD  Although, these are used in a succession game that is now at Year 7 (I think?) and I personally managed to build a stable fort during testing without even having to turtle much, so they *can* be weathered.

Honestly, I give 80% of the credit to SA for coming up with the concept; all I really did was translate it to .34xx and add a SPECIAL SURPRISE in a brief fit of gleeful malice.


@Corai:

Mr. Frog

8D You're now on my list. The Fun one.

[Aseaheru]

so where do we put the files? in data?
i can probaly figure it out