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Author Topic: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still  (Read 1174 times)

wuphonsreach

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I have a stockpile defined which accepts empty barrels.

Furniture - Type: Barrels, Stone/Clay: All, Other Materials: Wood
Max Barrels: 6 (it's a 2x3 stockpile)
Will take from anywhere.

It takes from the nearby Carpenter Workshop and the nearby Craftdwarf's Workshop.
It gives to the nearby still.

The problem seems to be that when a dwarf goes to use the still, you will get a job cancel message if there are no wooden barrels in the stockpile.  They don't seem to want to use the rock pots which are in the stockpile.  The rock pots are not forbidden, not marked for dump, the 'k' (look) shows them as empty.
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saintjebus

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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2012, 11:31:30 am »

Try reserving some barrels. That's in the basic 'p' menu. That might fix the problem.
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2012, 12:25:34 pm »

Furniture - Type: Barrels, Stone/Clay: All, Other Materials: Wood
Max Barrels: 6 (it's a 2x3 stockpile)
Will take from anywhere.
Wait, what?

You define stockpile which accepts barrels and choose the type of containers to store those barrels in: barrels?!

Max barrels = 0.
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2012, 01:31:34 pm »

Large rock pots are not barrels.  They are large pots.
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wuphonsreach

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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 06:47:43 am »

Large rock pots are not barrels.  They are large pots.

This was it.  Somehow a wayward and empty rock pot had ended up in the first tile of the stockpile, making it look like the stockpile was accepting rock pots.  In reality, there were no barrels or rock pots available in that stockpile at all.

Also, it seems that once you setup stockpiles to feed a still, you *must* have all of the ingredients required sitting in those stockpiles, or the job will fail.  It doesn't seem like the dwarf brewer will go looking for spare plants/pots/barrels from other stockpiles.  (Which makes sense once you understand that one goal of the new stockpile links is to give control over what materials are used by the workshop.)
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SauliusTheBlack

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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 08:17:03 am »


Also, it seems that once you setup stockpiles to feed a still, you *must* have all of the ingredients required sitting in those stockpiles, or the job will fail.  It doesn't seem like the dwarf brewer will go looking for spare plants/pots/barrels from other stockpiles.  (Which makes sense once you understand that one goal of the new stockpile links is to give control over what materials are used by the workshop.)

Which is quite useful. No idiotic micromanagement to specifiy booze. Just make a stockpile, link it and brew away :-)
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 08:20:48 am »

Well, you can have a workshop accepting from more than one stockpile. So you can have a barrel stockpile and an ingredient stockpile, and the still should work fine. (Though, that is harder and more micro-managy.) Don't mind me, I'm just trying to make everything harder......
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 08:43:16 am »

not at all harder. You need the stockpiles anyway, so why make it not so clear and useful?
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 03:12:25 pm »

while my still designs are still a work in progress, I'm going with:

1) 2x3 barrel / large pot stockpile that feeds the still.  I haven't experimented with "reserving" barrels though.

2) Multiple 1x2 to 2x2 stockpiles for the various brewing ingredients.  Usually one for Plump Helmets, one for underground crops and one for above ground crops.  These stockpiles should probably be setup to only pull from linked piles, and I should link them to the "barrel consolidation" stockpile up near the farms.

My goal for having 2-4 food stockpiles around the still is to hopefully result in the brewer picking different ingredients and producing a variety of booze.

3) An output stockpile of filled barrels that pulls from the workshop and only pulls from links (the still).  I would guess that a 2x4 or 3x4 stockpile is big enough for this.
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Ai Shizuka

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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 03:20:41 pm »

Do dwarves take food for eating from a stockpile set to give to a workshop?

Example: stockpile with plump helmets only gives to a still.
Will they take plump helmets to eat from that stockpile?
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 03:44:43 pm »

Do dwarves take food for eating from a stockpile set to give to a workshop?

Example: stockpile with plump helmets only gives to a still.
Will they take plump helmets to eat from that stockpile?
Dwarfs will take food from anywhere.
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 04:04:46 pm »

Large rock pots are not barrels.  They are large pots.

This was it.  Somehow a wayward and empty rock pot had ended up in the first tile of the stockpile, making it look like the stockpile was accepting rock pots.  In reality, there were no barrels or rock pots available in that stockpile at all.
It isn't a "somehow" it's the expected behavior for your stockpile settings. You set "Max Barrels" to something other then zero. An empty barrel-like object (a large pot) was placed on the stockpile. Since nothing being stored in the stockpile could be put in a barrel the pot just sat there.
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Re: Dwarf will not take pots from a stockpile that gives to a still
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 09:26:33 pm »

It isn't a "somehow" it's the expected behavior for your stockpile settings. You set "Max Barrels" to something other then zero. An empty barrel-like object (a large pot) was placed on the stockpile. Since nothing being stored in the stockpile could be put in a barrel the pot just sat there.

Ahhhh, right.  That explains the solo large pot in the stockpile.
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