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Naryar

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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Bill is watching.
« Reply #1680 on: December 12, 2014, 06:18:05 pm »

Last episode of Korra was pretty impressive.

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Also I am of very ambivalent thoughts about Kuvira. Is it me or her moral complexity seems to vary with each episode ?

let's sum it up:

-Pretty badass, also metalbending is awesome (which is a positive)
-An entirely self-made woman, which is rare in media (another positive)
-Far too much Nazi shenanigans (negative)
-More evil than pragmatic (negative)
-Conquering shit (positive. What ? Peace is boring)
-Apparently more power-hungry than pragmative (negative)
-Was put up as ambiguous at the start, then became more dog-kicking and less morally interesting as time went (negative)
-Spirit vine magitek laser railway Karl Gustavs (positive)

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So yeah, there's more positive but yet I am unconvinced. As the season went I liked her, then disliked her, then went back to neutral. I mean, I have nothing but admiration for an antagonist like Xanatos, but Kuvira...

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this must happen.
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« Reply #1681 on: December 12, 2014, 06:23:24 pm »

Also I am of very ambivalent thoughts about Kuvira. Is it me or her moral complexity seems to vary with each episode ?

It's kinda a running problem with the series where they have the villains sound reasonable but uncontrollably kick puppies so we know they're a bad person who needs their butt kicked.
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« Reply #1682 on: December 12, 2014, 06:31:14 pm »

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« Reply #1683 on: December 12, 2014, 06:31:41 pm »

Kuvira can be interpreted in two ways
1) Is she is a monster that needs to be stopped and everything she has done until now was just a front
or
2) Kuvira is meant to be a villain who progressively needs to go to further and further extremes to meet her goals. Starting off as a anti-hero and slowly progressing from anti-villain to villain to monster.

I like to think she is the second... That at one point if she stopped and went "you know what? we had enough, now lets work on fixing the earth kingdom" she would be a very effective leader.

But Given the 3rd season's villains and how they ended up... we will see.

I still don't buy the Prince as an effective leader though. I am somewhat hoping he isn't part of a "path to true kinghood" because frankly a few minor actions do not a king make.
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« Reply #1684 on: December 12, 2014, 06:36:36 pm »

Well, going by the whole "learn from your enemies" thing, I think the monarchy of the Earth Kingdom will be restored, but only as a symbolic position, and they'll get a democratic government.
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« Reply #1685 on: December 19, 2014, 01:29:19 pm »

So, Korra was good. By a wide margin, the best season of the lot - it managed not to fall in on itself toward the end like the past 3, and that makes all the difference.
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« Reply #1686 on: December 19, 2014, 03:23:56 pm »

episode 11 thoughts:

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Pretty good overall. Kuvira actually seems more interesting when she emotes... even if she's pissed off. Especially than she is pissed off, actually.

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« Reply #1687 on: December 19, 2014, 04:02:40 pm »

So, Korra was good. By a wide margin, the best season of the lot - it managed not to fall in on itself toward the end like the past 3, and that makes all the difference.

It helps that Kuvera can actually back up her goals unlike the season 3 villains and is nuanced unlike the season 2 villain... and doesn't become a weenie like the season 1 villain.
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« Reply #1688 on: December 19, 2014, 04:21:50 pm »

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« Reply #1689 on: December 19, 2014, 05:02:08 pm »

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that other ship tho

What, you mean
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? I felt the tingling of the ship, but nah. Not really.

Also finale was good. Both sides were tactically pretty good, Kuvira outdones herself by each moment for never being helpless and always finding a solution to the situation
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Also, now convinced by Kuvira in the finale. +1, you go girl.

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« Reply #1690 on: December 20, 2014, 04:23:21 am »

Finally saw the finale, after marathonning the whole season with my friend who had been waiting to see it until it was all out. We had to skip episode 11 due to time constraints, but holy shit, that finale.

Wish I could type a long, elaborate post of spoiler discussion but in a few hours I leave for a long road trip.
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« Reply #1691 on: December 20, 2014, 04:53:59 am »

No I am with you Hugo... that Finale.

Wow!

The saddest thing is... that is the end of Avatar... I almost want to cry just from that...

I am not even going to put that Finale into a spoiler, it just NEEDS to be seen.
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« Reply #1692 on: December 20, 2014, 05:52:58 am »

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« Reply #1693 on: December 20, 2014, 06:19:37 am »

You know the ending is good when Neonivek is speechless.

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« Reply #1694 on: December 20, 2014, 07:45:05 am »

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I'm not fully convinced, personally. Yes, there is something deeper than with Mako and Bolin, clearly. But full-on romance ? Eh.

But I like Asami. She's the most interesting of the Korra team, I think.
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