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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #525 on: July 11, 2012, 04:19:32 pm »

Just from memory, D&D: Tower of Doom and D&D: Shadow Over Mystara. Play them on my emulator all the time.

Not bad Golden Axe clones, with some RPG elements. Kinda short though.

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« Reply #526 on: July 11, 2012, 04:23:06 pm »

So for the people who will only look at this page to restate what I said:

An issue I can see with the movie is that it looks like a movie made by people who don't play videogames.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #527 on: July 11, 2012, 04:29:54 pm »

One thing to consider is this is Disney. They want mass market appeal. So of course the character's going to be straight out of an 80s arcade machine, complete with beeps and boops, because that's what mainstream audiences think when they think "video games."


I'm withholding judgement until I see it, but the big pitfall I see it falling into is having a cliche plot with a video game gimmick. If the plot progression is as follows:

1) He strikes out on his own and has misadventures,
2) He eventually loses his motivation and goes back,
3) He needs to regain his drive for the climactic ending,

then I'm gonna puke.



Of course there's lots of potential to actually be good. I'd love them to play up the mid-life crisis angle.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #528 on: July 11, 2012, 04:39:27 pm »

I saw a video that claimed that the little girl in the candy world (the mimicking one) is actually Ralph's love interest, of all things. That seem potentially wrong to anyone else?
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« Reply #529 on: July 11, 2012, 04:41:10 pm »

Haha, I've heard that theory too. Since video game characters don't age, she could be like 30 but just look 8. Disney would have to have way more guts than I give them credit for to do that, though.
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« Reply #530 on: July 11, 2012, 05:00:25 pm »

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One thing to consider is this is Disney. They want mass market appeal. So of course the character's going to be straight out of an 80s arcade machine, complete with beeps and boops, because that's what mainstream audiences think when they think "video games."

No I am not talking about that... Why do people always make my comments into the dumbest possible interpretation?

To quote: "When did videogames become so violent and scary"

Anyhow... No that game was a combination of Donkey Kong, Mario, Rampage, and Bob the Builder.
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« Reply #531 on: July 11, 2012, 05:17:37 pm »

No I am not talking about that... Why do people always make my comments into the dumbest possible interpretation?

To quote: "When did videogames become so violent and scary"

Anyhow... No that game was a combination of Donkey Kong, Mario, Rampage, and Bob the Builder.

You're forgetting that's from Ralph's perspective. He's from an old arcade machine, pretty much a glorified Game and Watch game. Games back then were typically happy-go-lucky things like a plumber running through a magical world and stomping on mushrooms with eyes.

It's not a commentary on how horrible violent video games are, it's just showing that the times have changed and he's out of his element.

I saw a video that claimed that the little girl in the candy world (the mimicking one) is actually Ralph's love interest, of all things. That seem potentially wrong to anyone else?

I'm going to restate that I'd find this really creepy. I don't care if you're doing some clever crap like making her mentally older, you're still just jumping through hoops to excuse pseudo-pedophilia.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #532 on: July 11, 2012, 05:18:55 pm »

This has a lot of potential. Both good and bad. Hopefully, they do it right.
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« Reply #533 on: July 11, 2012, 05:30:31 pm »

So apparently Legend of Korra is now planned to be 52 episodes total. I liked the first 12 episodes just fine, though I have to wonder where they'll find the plot for another 40.
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Re: Cartoon/Western Animation Thread. -- Pixar 'n stuff
« Reply #534 on: July 11, 2012, 05:35:43 pm »

No I am not talking about that... Why do people always make my comments into the dumbest possible interpretation?

To quote: "When did videogames become so violent and scary"

Anyhow... No that game was a combination of Donkey Kong, Mario, Rampage, and Bob the Builder.

You're forgetting that's from Ralph's perspective. He's from an old arcade machine, pretty much a glorified Game and Watch game. Games back then were typically happy-go-lucky things like a plumber running through a magical world and stomping on mushrooms with eyes.

It's not a commentary on how horrible violent video games are, it's just showing that the times have changed and he's out of his element.
I think it's somewhere in between. Yes, 8-bit games had violence, but it was cartoony violence. The mushrooms didn't have ragdoll physics and gibs. When you got hit by Donkey Kong's barrel, it didn't leave an anatomically correct pulped corpse. When you shot a bad guy in games like Bionic Commando or Contra, they either blinked out of existence or had a little 3-4 frame "death" animation that was hardly worthy of the name. I remember how incredibly hardcore N.A.R.C. seemed when it came out because OMG YOU CAN BLOW PEOPLE UP WITH A ROCKET AND IT RAINS BODY PARTS AND FLAMING EYEBALLS.
 
Contrast that with almost any FPS nowadays. From the perspective of a somebody who grew up on 80s coin-op.....yeah, today's stuff is pretty grimdark by comparison (excluding those gems like Katamari Damacy).
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« Reply #535 on: July 11, 2012, 05:41:09 pm »

Yes but lets stick within the Arcades. Since violent and Scary games existed in the time period Ralph is from.

It just sounds like the dialog was written by someone who really doesn't play videogames.

"When did videogames get to violent and scary"

Well hmmm let me think... Honestly probably since the NES or if you don't accept that within the SNES (As early as the Atari truthfully)

Also how are you defining "Scary?" Because the original Clocktower which was a 2-bit game was a lot more scary then your weird Metroid/Gears-of-war mix on the best day. What you were playing wasn't scary...

It is just a weird peice of dialog I'd expect a parent to say... Not a videogame character who exists in a world where all videogames exist.

I can only guess it is in there SPECIFICALLY to say what all the non-videogame playing parents are thinking.
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« Reply #536 on: July 11, 2012, 05:49:05 pm »

I saw a video that claimed that the little girl in the candy world (the mimicking one) is actually Ralph's love interest, of all things. That seem potentially wrong to anyone else?

I'm going to restate that I'd find this really creepy. I don't care if you're doing some clever crap like making her mentally older, you're still just jumping through hoops to excuse pseudo-pedophilia.
Look at it from the perspective of someone who doesn't age. Would you avoid relationships because some third party, who has nothing to do with your or any potential partner, was grossed out by it?

It's a moot point for this in particular since there's no way in hell Disney would ever do it, but it's an interesting thought.
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« Reply #537 on: July 11, 2012, 05:49:44 pm »

So apparently Legend of Korra is now planned to be 52 episodes total. I liked the first 12 episodes just fine, though I have to wonder where they'll find the plot for another 40.
Ohboyohboyohboy I am so excited best ever.

...though I still haven't finished the first season >__>
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« Reply #538 on: July 11, 2012, 05:51:52 pm »

I saw a video that claimed that the little girl in the candy world (the mimicking one) is actually Ralph's love interest, of all things. That seem potentially wrong to anyone else?

I'm going to restate that I'd find this really creepy. I don't care if you're doing some clever crap like making her mentally older, you're still just jumping through hoops to excuse pseudo-pedophilia.
Look at it from the perspective of someone who doesn't age. Would you avoid relationships because some third party, who has nothing to do with your or any potential partner, was grossed out by it?

It's a moot point for this in particular since there's no way in hell Disney would ever do it, but it's an interesting thought.
If she didn't act like a toddler as well as look like one, that argument might make sense. From what we've seen however, even if she doesn't age she's in no way mature enough to have a relationship.
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« Reply #539 on: July 11, 2012, 05:52:36 pm »

@korra getting 52 episodes
Wait seriously? That's kinda awesome. Here's hoping the fix their relationship writing bungle and make Mako more than a cardboard box with "love interest" pasted on it. They've got plenty of time to do it now.
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