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[Nerjin]

I remember him being poorly implemented in a very poor sequel and twisted in such a way to force him to commit a terrorist act for no good reason whatsoever.

[WillowLuman]

In this game, possession would be a separate thing from hosting, and far more injurious.

[kj1225]

In this game, possession would be a separate thing from hosting, and far more injurious.

Yeah, but the way you describe it is pretty much how it worked I believe.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Anybody willing to help me with some combat and other systems for a titan fall game I want to run?
It will be an SG in the form of a world war scale battlefield (night rub it like player gamer's world war game in which case it will be a multiplayer) using mechs and foot soilders.
Playing/knowing about the game Titan fall would probably help understand some of it's mechanics.

[Squeegy]

Alright, I started Dueling Blades as I said I was going to do earlier. We need 1 more player. It's a full-on tabletop game, though less complex than most. Thread: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=148617.0

[High tyrol]

I have a pretty simple idea for a rpg
The idea is each player would start out with 2-6 powers from the supperpower wiki (exact amount depends upon potantcy of abilities) and would gain more for accomplishing various tasks , or killing other players.
I am wondering two things 1. How much intrest is there for a game like this
2. What kind of mechanics should I use for how the powers interact.
3.if this is too complicated for my first time being a gm

[escaped lurker]

I have a pretty simple idea for a rpg
The idea is each player would start out with 2-6 powers from the supperpower wiki (exact amount depends upon potantcy of abilities) and would gain more for accomplishing various tasks , or killing other players.
I am wondering two things 1. How much intrest is there for a game like this
2. What kind of mechanics should I use for how the powers interact.
3.if this is too complicated for my first time being a gm

Well then, since you asked, here comes my humble opinion. Dis/regard at your own leisure. ;3

1: Existing interest is relative - by making a game interesting enough, you can plainly create interest among bay12 by yourself. I'd actually say that "super/natural power" is somewhat of an established trope, so what kind of plot you build around it, would be the more important point.

2: I'd advise to keep it simple. Like, a character only being able to be affected by ~2 effects at once. If another, new effect, comes along, just make a save roll for the existing one/s, possibly according to the "potency" stat of the caster/s.

3: How complicated it becomes, really depends on yourself. Again, less is more. To give a - somewhat - exaggerated example; If you plan to roll each round for 1. Initiative 2.Hitchance 3.Dodgechance 4.Damage-range 5. Blocking/Resistance 6. Bonus effects, that netts you 12 rolls per round for a single attack, from 2 combatants. As soon as there is a larger scale battle with npc's, like a 4v4, or four players doing "their thing somewhere", that translates into a whooping ~44 rolls for each round. That is tedious, especially as it is, indeed, only a somewhat exaggerated example.

Seeing as you are playing with the pvp thought, Initiative might stay in 1. Hit / Dodge, also; 2,3. And the damage-range, for which a crit is only applied on a natural max roll, 4. There is also the possibility of taking the difference between hit and dodge, and to use that for the damage-range... but, really, just rolling it is easier in my book. So, 8 rolls for each round of combat.

All in all, if you are unsure if this could be too tedious for you, maybe trying with 3 players, but no more than 4 should do the trick. Starting, that is - you can always expand further at a later date.

[High tyrol]

I have a pretty simple idea for a rpg
The idea is each player would start out with 2-6 powers from the supperpower wiki (exact amount depends upon potantcy of abilities) and would gain more for accomplishing various tasks , or killing other players.
I am wondering two things 1. How much intrest is there for a game like this
2. What kind of mechanics should I use for how the powers interact.
3.if this is too complicated for my first time being a gm

Well then, since you asked, here comes my humble opinion. Dis/regard at your own leisure. ;3

1: Existing interest is relative - by making a game interesting enough, you can plainly create interest among bay12 by yourself. I'd actually say that "super/natural power" is somewhat of an established trope, so what kind of plot you build around it, would be the more important point.

2: I'd advise to keep it simple. Like, a character only being able to be affected by ~2 effects at once. If another, new effect, comes along, just make a save roll for the existing one/s, possibly according to the "potency" stat of the caster/s.

3: How complicated it becomes, really depends on yourself. Again, less is more. To give a - somewhat - exaggerated example; If you plan to roll each round for 1. Initiative 2.Hitchance 3.Dodgechance 4.Damage-range 5. Blocking/Resistance 6. Bonus effects, that netts you 12 rolls per round for a single attack, from 2 combatants. As soon as there is a larger scale battle with npc's, like a 4v4, or four players doing "their thing somewhere", that translates into a whooping ~44 rolls for each round. That is tedious, especially as it is, indeed, only a somewhat exaggerated example.

Seeing as you are playing with the pvp thought, Initiative might stay in 1. Hit / Dodge, also; 2,3. And the damage-range, for which a crit is only applied on a natural max roll, 4. There is also the possibility of taking the difference between hit and dodge, and to use that for the damage-range... but, really, just rolling it is easier in my book. So, 8 rolls for each round of combat.

All in all, if you are unsure if this could be too tedious for you, maybe trying with 3 players, but no more than 4 should do the trick. Starting, that is - you can always expand further at a later date.

ok thanks

[WillowLuman]

Not a specific game as such, but designing systems. Which I am pretty inexperienced with. Anyone RPG-savvy want to take a look?

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=148720.0;topicseen

[hops]

So I'm working on a forum game based on a board game right now. I'm still running my suggestion game, so I can't cobble up a test game to refine my ideas right now.


Dusk & Dawn is a board game which is intended to be a copy of the commercial board game Shadow Hunters. It is best described as a Mafia deathmatch.

In the game, the players are divided into three factions. The Dusk champions and the Dawn champions are two opposing factions that will win if the players of the opposite factions are all dead. The Neutral champions have their own objective which they must fulfill. If a Neutral champion wins, it generally means everyone else loses, save for some exceptions. A Neutral champion tend to be more powerful than other champions.

The players are given random characters which they must play. At the start of the game, no one will know whose side the others are on, or which character they are.

Each champions have their own abilities which they can use. However, most of the time using their ability will force them to reveal themselves. Apart from their ability, the players can rely on randomly drawn cards which they can pick, depending on their location.

Red cards are mostly attack spells and items. Blue cards are defense spells and items. Green cards are special cards which the players can send to other players to hopefully determine their faction.

The green cards are generally conditional (only work if the receiver is in certain faction(s)).

Team distribution

The game require at least 5 players. There is always only one Neutral character. If there are more than 4 players in the Dusk and Dawn factions, a player from each faction will get a Leader-class champion.

Environment:

At the start of the player's turn, they roll a 2d6. The result determine their environment, and thus what they can do.

2-4: Churchyard - Draw a blue card
5-7: Cemetery - Draw a red card
8-10: Observatory - Draw a green card
11: Underground Tunnels - Draw any colour of card
12: Warehouse - Steal a player's item

Character creation:

Since the game is still in development, I need some ideas for characters.

Name:
Faction:
Objective (if Neutral):
Damage Threshold: Note that a weapon should deal around 3 damage. 10 DT is decent, 16 DT is high.
Ability:

[ATHATH]

Perhaps an objective for a neutral player could be to prevent anyone from dying for x consecutive turns? Or maybe have x teamkills occur?

[hops]

The first objective sounds like it'd either end the game really fast or make things weird.

I suppose that preventing either side from winning for a large number of turns might be interesting, though.

[Kadzar]

I have a pretty simple idea for a rpg
The idea is each player would start out with 2-6 powers from the supperpower wiki (exact amount depends upon potantcy of abilities) and would gain more for accomplishing various tasks , or killing other players.
I am wondering two things 1. How much intrest is there for a game like this
2. What kind of mechanics should I use for how the powers interact.
3.if this is too complicated for my first time being a gm

I probably should have mentioned it when you first posted this, but this reminds me of ICONS.

[Nerjin]

I had a Gladiator game some time ago... I've changed several things and I think I want to run it again. here's what I got so far. Any thoughts?

Gladiators of Nevendaar – Gladiatorial Management Game

Flavor Flavor Flavor
So you want to run a gladiator school in a managerial position? It is quite simple. First familiarize yourself with the rules regarding: Schools, Gladiators, Turns, and Battle. After that simply fill out the sheet you acquired at the Registrar’s and submit it to the Registrar. Then, you will be the proud owner of one of the many gladiator schools in the region.

Spoiler: School Stats (click to show/hide)

School Name – This is the name of the gladiatorial school you manage. It affects nothing other than your personal choice. School Names can be changed at any time.

School Titles – A list of tournaments you’ve won. This helps you keep track of what tourney’s you still need to complete in order to qualify for certain higher ranked tournaments. If you mouse over the title you’ll see what tournament you won to receive that title.

Money – This is simply the amount of gold that you can dedicate towards your school. You can gain gold through tournaments, gambling, and simply winning battles. Gold is required for a variety of purposes and if you get below 0 gold your school is considered bankrupt. Bankrupt schools are forced to sell off assets. If you cannot get to 0+ gold after selling assets your school is disbanded. Every school starts with 600 gold. You can mouse over this figure to see the rate of Upkeep you are dealing with.

Upkeep – This is the amount of gold that you must pay each week to keep your school running. Upkeep is determined by your gladiators. Each gladiator receives 1/10 their original purchase price each week in upkeep. This means that more powerful gladiators require far more upkeep. It is important to note that 1gp per turn is the minimum amount of upkeep.

Let’s take a look at an example school:

School Name: The Example School for Exempler Examples
School Titles: The Tin Medal
Money: 600gp
Roster: [1/1]
[This is where the Gladiators of your school will appear. They will appear in quotes within a single "Roster" spoiler. If a statistic doesn’t apply to a gladiator it will usually not show up.]

Spoiler: Gladiator stats (click to show/hide)

Gladiator Name – The Name, Class, and Race of the Gladiator. You may change the Gladiator’s name at any time.

HP – If a gladiator reaches 0 HP they are in critical condition and taken out of the fight. Furthermore they cannot take part in another fight until they are ‘revived’. Gladiators in critical condition are treated like a normal gladiator in every other respect however. Most gladiators receive 5% of their max health back every week if not in critical condition.]

Armor - Armor is the amount of damage, percentage wise, that your gladiator ignores. For example, if your Gladiator has 5 armor, they will ignore 5% of all damage they recieve. So a damage that would usually deal 100 damage: [100 * [1 - .05] = 100 * .95 = 95 Damage]. The minimum amount of armor a gladiator can have is 0, while the maximum is 95.

Immune – This Gladiator will take no damage from sources they are immune to. [*This stat is only shown if applicable]

Ward – This Gladiator takes 50% damage from attacks with this source. Damage from this source outside of combat never affects this Gladiator. If the attack has a status affects (Such a Paralysis) the ward negates it entirely. [*This stat is only shown if applicable]

Weakness – Gladiators take 150% damage from attacks with this source. [*This stat is only shown if applicable]

Purchase Cost – The cost of hiring this gladiator. [*This stat is only shown during purchase]

Revive Cost – This is the price you must pay to take a Gladiator from 0hp to 1hp. [*This stat is only shown if the Gladiator is in critical condition, during purchase, or during level up.]

XP – This is the amount of XP this Gladiator needs to Class Change. Leaders stay the same class but gain a new ability and increase their stats. The second number shows how much experience this unit is worth if defeated.

Level – This number shows how many times your gladiator has hit their XP cap.

Initiative – The higher this number is the more likely your gladiator is to go first in battle.

Attack[1/2] [Damage / Targets / Chance /Source] – The name of the attack the gladiator uses in combat. If the Gladiator has two attacks both attacks will target the same Gladiators.
   Damage: The amount of damage the attack will do if it is successful.
   Chance: The chance that an attack will hit.
   Source – The source of the attack’s damage. [Weapon, Earth, Fire, Wind, Water, Mind, Death, or Life]

Chance – The chance that an attack has to hit.
Targets: Adjacent/Any/All. Mouse over the previous three words to see what they mean.

Levels Into: These are the classes a Gladiator can change into when they hit experience cap. If the gladiator does not have this stat shown it means that they simply gain a boost to their current stats. [Ogres only level into stronger ogres for example, while a Squire can level into a Knight or a Witch Hunter]. [*This is only shown during purchase or level up if applicable.]

Traits/Flaw: Traits are personality facets that assist your Gladiator in their job. Flaws are the opposite in that they harm your gladiator. Every gladiator has at least 2 traits and 1 flaw. Some gladiators are larger than others and have 3 traits and 1 flaw. One of their traits is always “Large”.

Endorsment: If your School is spectacular enough they might get an endorsement from a high-ranking organization. These function like traits except that you may change them whenever there is a better offer. Each endorsement has three levels [Bronze, Silver, and Gold] that increases the effect. You must, however, work your way up from Bronze to Gold over time.

Spoiler: The Turn (click to show/hide)

The Turn can be divided into 5 Parts. Start, Preparation, Battle, Wrap Up, End.
Start
The start of the turn has a few portions. This is the part of the turn where you earn money from last week’s matches, pay upkeep, and when your gladiators regenerate health. It leads directly into Preperation.
 Preperation
This is the busiest part of the turn. This is where you pick whether or not your school will participate in battles as well as what the positioning for your gladiators are. The battle plan is gone into in more detail in the Battle section of this post.

Thus begins Phase 2 when each of the Matches are announced as well as the predicted odds of the teams winning. Each School may place a bet on ONE other school. This is when the managers set up their battle plan.

Then the Battle portion occurs.
 Battle

This is the meat and potatoes of a gladiator’s life. Unfortunately you’re but a manager so it’s not something you take part in too much. All matches that you and your fellow Gladiator Schools took place in are recorded [in a sense] and posted in the…
Wrap Up

This is when the battles are talked about, recordings posted, and gambling results announced [payout occurs during the next weeks Start but you do see how much you’ll be getting from gambling]. Furthermore you can revive Critical Condition gladiators or heal ones who were injured in the fights.

This is also when gladiators will offer their services to you. You may purchase them if you want.

Lastly, endorsement offers will come in at this time which you can accept or decline at your leisure.
 The End
The end of the turn is rightfully boring. As the stadiums empty and patrons go home you are left with little other option than to go home yourself until next week when the games renew.

Spoiler: Services (click to show/hide)

The following is a list of services you can use for your school, as well as what times you can invoke them.

You can spend money to give your Gladiator experience during the Preperation phase. While you cannot level your gladiator this way it can certainly speed up the process. However higher level units require more money to train. Per each point of experience you want to gain it will cost:

1gp for Level 1 and 2
2gp for Level 3
5gp for Level 4
10gp for Level 5
15gp for Level 6
20gp for Level 7
Etc. etc.

It is important to note that you cannot actually level up your gladiator through this training. The final experience point MUST be earned in a battle. Training is powerful, but nothing beats practical experience.

Each week a small amount of items are available for purchase. This can range from Potions to Artifacts to Banners and more. The available items are announced at each turns start. You can only have 8 items in your inventory at any time so it is best to be careful with what you purchase. You can also sell items you no longer need at 50% market price.

There are several types of items:
Artifacts: Are items that affect only a single gladiator throughout the battle. Their effects are varied and potent thought they are incredibly expensive. Each gladiator can only have one artifact equipped at a time.
Banners: These items are permanent team-wide bonuses. You can only possess one banner at any time. They have a wide variety of affects but are generally less useful than artifacts.
Potions: Potions affect a single unit with a wide range of effects; anything from healing, to revival, and even some rare potions which permanently increase your gladiator’s stats. A potion can only affect a single gladiator before it is used up forever.
 

There are some items that aren't exactly 'allowed' by the Arena. Thankfully these fine gentlemen will help you out regardless. However using their services are risky. You can get rare and exotic items, as well as mundane items, at discount.

However, if the Arena finds out about this [1/10 chance] there is a hefty fine. Specifically you will pay 150% of the item’s market price and will not receive the item.

The Black Market has an eternally changing inventory, so be sure to check back often... If you're willing to take the risk.

The gladiatorial business is a competitive one with businesses appearing and disappearing rapidly. If there's a good or service you want you can always ask around. Who knows, you just might find one.

Spoiler: Battle (click to show/hide)

As a manager you may have some questions about how combat works. First, though, we will show you what the Battle-grid looks like.

[[Back 1 – Front 1 / Front A – Back A
Back 2 – Front 2 / Front B – Back B
Back  3 – Front 3 / Front C – Back C]]

As you can see, each team can have up to six Gladiators on their side of the field at once. Who stands where is up to the manager. Large Gladiators take up an entire row by themselves.
How does Adjacent work? Any? All?
Gladiators who must attack adjacent can only attack Gladiators who are adjacent to them. For example imagine the following playing field:

[[Armbrust – Fighter / Apprentice – Archer
Empty – Empty / Paladin – Empty
Armbrust – Knight / Empty – Archer]]

The Fighter, Knight, and Paladin all have the Adjacent attack tag, The Armbrusts and Archers have the Any tag, while the Apprentice has the All tag.

When the Apprentice’s turn comes up he makes his attack and it targets “All” the enemy Gladiators. So it would target the two Armbrusts, Fighter, and the Knight regardless of where they are.

Next the Archer [doesn’t matter which] goes. The Archer, having the Any tag, may attack a single enemy no matter where they are. So the Archer decides to attack the Armbrust. Seems easy enough.

The trouble is the Paladin, Fighter, and Knight have the Adjacent tag meaning they can only attack Gladiators that are adjacent to them on the map. Should be rather self explanatory but let’s make this a better diagram. A’s will stand for “Available Target” while N will stand for “Not Available. We will be assuming we’re doing this only for the Fighter who will be an F.

[[N – F / A – N
N – N / A – N
N – N / N – N]]

That should clear up any confusion but… What if the Paladin and the Apprentice [who should never be in the front row, by the way] are dead or Critically Injured?… Is the Fighter useless? Not at all! Instead the Field changes, figuratively, to look like this:

[[Armbrust – Fighter / Archer
Empty – Empty / Empty
Armbrust – Knight / Archer]]


So the fighter can attack the top row archer, while the knight can attack the bottom row archer. But what if the Paladin had died? Could the Knight attack the [theoretically] still living Apprentice? The answer is yes. If there are no valid targets for an adjacent attacker in a row the adjacent attacker is allowed to attack anyone, so long as they are in the front row. The same applies to the back row when all the front row Gladiators are dead.
But how does combat work?

Combat is entirely out of your hands… You’re a manager remember? Still, you have some control. First off, you get to choose who competes in each fight your school is a part of. If you have twelve Gladiators in your school you can have them join in any number of fights so long as there is at least ONE gladiator participating and you meet the requirements for every fight. After that you can choose which gladiator participates in the fight and where. What do I mean by where?

Let’s say that you have Gladiator’s named: Al, Bob, Carl, David, Ernest, and Freddie. You get to choose where they will stand on the field. So you can have it look like this:

[[Al – Bob / Enemy Top Row
Carl – David / Enemy Center Row
Ernest – Freddie / Enemy Bottom Row]]

Or any other combination that you think will work out in your favor. Your declaration of position can be made public knowledge or secretly sent to the commissioner of the fight.

Well… That’s great and all but what else can I do? Well… One other thing. Your Gladiator’s have a total of two options in their fights: Attack or Defend. Attacking is pretty self explanatory – Your Gladiator will use its ability/attack.

Defend on the other hand simple halves the damage taken after other modifiers. Let’s say Johnny is attacked for 100 damage. BUT Johnny has 30% armor. [100 – 30 = 70 * .5 = 35 damage taken]. DEFEND DOES NOT INCREASE ARMOR!!! But other than that it’s still pretty basic.

So where do you come into this? Well you can set up a Battle Plan which is given at the same time you pick positions. In the Battle Plan you simply tell your Gladiators the general plan you want them to follow. You can be as specific or as general as you want. Both have their advantages. Some gladiators however are unruly and won’t listen to the plan, but most will.
What happens after the battle?

After the battle phase, the results are reported during the Wrap-up as well as you gain an immediate boost to fame.

Spoiler: League Types (click to show/hide)

Leagues are tournaments Gladiators take part in for fame and glory. Thankfully, victorious schools, as well as runners up, will earn money and fame as well as a title for their victory. There are three types of Leagues:

Round Robin: Every School will compete against every other school a single time. At the end of the Round Robin the number of wins is counted and the victor decided. If there is a tie between an equal number of schools the schools will partake in a single elimination tournament until only one remains. If there is a draw between an odd number of schools then all schools will split the prize. Various rules can apply to this sort of League.

Tourney: Every school competes in a single elimination tournament with the winner of each match facing the winner of another match until only one school remains undefeated. Various rules can apply to this sort of League.

Unique Rules
Some leagues have unique rules that are posted before sign-ups. Some examples of this are:

Death Matches: Leagues that have these do not allow Gladiators to leave until their opposition is dead. This is highly exciting for the crowd and often has high rewards. Unfortunately if your gladiator falls in a Death Match you cannot revive them, and they are lost forever. These can be good for getting rid of particularly annoying opponent “Star Players” or even Gladiators that you have tired of. After all, if they win you get big money, if they lose you don’t have to pay them anymore.

Exotic: Leagues that have these do not allow certain types of Gladiators such as “Humans” or “Ferals”. This requires for a decent variety of gladiators to keep from being banned from these leagues. Another popular name for these leagues is “Racist” due to the fact that some only allow a single type of race to participate.

Tiered: Leagues that have this tag do not allow Gladiators above and/or below a certain level to participate. This is usually done to allow weaker gladiators a chance to get their bearings.

As well as many more.
 

After reading the manual several times you decide that, Yes, you do want to start a gladiator school. IN FACT, you just can’t wait to get started. So you quickly glance over the form before filling it out.

Lord Name: Your Name here
School Name: School Name Here
School History: Please fill out...
Personal History: Please fill out...

[Squeegy]

All that gladiator information is way too important to squash into an acronym tag.