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Eagle_eye

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An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« on: May 20, 2012, 03:29:11 pm »
Eventually, DF gets a little dull. Unless you intentionally make things difficult for yourself, the game is pretty easy, and eventually even terrifying glaciers aren't that bad. But you could preserve the novelty, and the difficulty that comes from not knowing things, by generating new content for each world. You could write a short program to add in tags to creatures at random, generate a balanced, but varied mix of inorganic items, create new interactions that would require players to observe carefully and conduct extensive !!SCIENCE!!. Perhaps even generating tech trees. The only difficulty would be in fine tuning the probabilities of various tags so that you don't get megabeasts everywhere or FUN like that. Of course, to preserve any semblance of realism, some things would have to be chosen from a predetermined list, rather than generated on the spot. I can do all the programming, but I don't think I could come up with enough novel body forms and syndromes to keep everything both interesting and balanced. Thus, I'd like it if some people could assist me with that. So, if you have some free time and are feeling creative, could you post one or two of the following?

Syndromes:
Body Templates:
Interactions:
interesting reactions:

Anything else is, of course ,welcome

I realize this is quite a bit to ask for, but the work I've seen on these forums far surpasses most things I could dream up.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2012, 03:35:48 pm »
What game are you playing?  Because as far as I can tell DF already contains most of those elements.

Want to see more random creatures?  More Titans, Night Creatures, Night Trolls, Demons and the like will do that

Random Syndromes?  Up the Secrets.

More random stuff?  Evil Weather and Rain types do that.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2012, 03:41:10 pm »
I'm talking about literally everything. random vermin, random ethics, random civs, random creatures, random megabeasts, random metals, random reactions, etc. I don't want to see a Skeletal Yeti and think, oh crap, lock down the fort. I want to see something with a name I don't recognize, mistakenly assume it's not that dangerous, and watch as it devours my fort.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2012, 03:54:45 pm »
Quote from: Eagle_eye on May 20, 2012, 03:41:10 pm
I'm talking about literally everything. random vermin, random ethics, random civs, random creatures, random megabeasts, random metals, random reactions, etc. I don't want to see a Skeletal Yeti and think, oh crap, lock down the fort. I want to see something with a name I don't recognize, mistakenly assume it's not that dangerous, and watch as it devours my fort.
ishygddt, that might seriously fuck up the game.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2012, 04:36:21 pm by Mrhappyface »
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2012, 04:01:39 pm »
Quote from: Eagle_eye on May 20, 2012, 03:41:10 pm
I'm talking about literally everything. random vermin, random ethics, random civs, random creatures, random megabeasts, random metals, random reactions, etc. I don't want to see a Skeletal Yeti and think, oh crap, lock down the fort. I want to see something with a name I don't recognize, mistakenly assume it's not that dangerous, and watch as it devours my fort.

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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2012, 04:02:14 pm »
Random fish generator[2], random plant generator[1]
There is a bigger plant generator on the page zero, too. I don't think anyone actually created the mineral/creature generator (there was something with mythical horses, wasn't it?).
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2012, 04:54:57 pm »
There is also the Random Raw Creator that can handle:
Random Toys
Random Plants
Random Weapons
Random Stone
Random Food
Random Instruments
Random Minerals
Random Gems

Though I don't know if it has been updated to the latest version yet or not.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2012, 05:57:48 pm »
Well I like the cut of your jib, so I'm going to give you this to help you along your way.


Here is the centipede I've ended up building.

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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2012, 08:51:46 pm »
OP, I'd love to take part in this because I loves me some procedurally generated stuff.

You need basic things like quadrupedal bodies, insectoid & arachnoid bodies, shelled torsos, stingers, and tentacles, right? Then you'd let the program assemble them into creatures, with chitinous or feather-bound or fleshed bodies or what have you, correct?
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 08:52:35 pm »
body_rcp already has many of those for FBs.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2012, 08:57:31 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on May 20, 2012, 08:52:35 pm
body_rcp already has many of those for FBs.

Aware of that, but many FBs are based off of basic, pre-existing creatures. While that would be fine for some creatures (snake headed wrens, anyone?), the bulk of creatures should be completely unique.
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2012, 09:58:03 pm »
Quote from: Captain Crazy on May 20, 2012, 08:57:31 pm
Quote from: Putnam on May 20, 2012, 08:52:35 pm
body_rcp already has many of those for FBs.

Aware of that, but many FBs are based off of basic, pre-existing creatures. While that would be fine for some creatures (snake headed wrens, anyone?), the bulk of creatures should be completely unique.

I think you can add more bodyparts in body_rcp to make the game use it on newly generated worlds.

Hydra-type forgotten beasts, anyone?
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 10:23:49 pm »
Quote from: New Guy on May 20, 2012, 09:58:03 pm
Quote from: Captain Crazy on May 20, 2012, 08:57:31 pm
Quote from: Putnam on May 20, 2012, 08:52:35 pm
body_rcp already has many of those for FBs.

Aware of that, but many FBs are based off of basic, pre-existing creatures. While that would be fine for some creatures (snake headed wrens, anyone?), the bulk of creatures should be completely unique.

I think you can add more bodyparts in body_rcp to make the game use it on newly generated worlds.

Hydra-type forgotten beasts, anyone?

I'll see to it that every FB is forced to have a magic-spewin' injectawiener. Thanks, m8!
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2012, 03:58:58 am »
Well untill we make something like that, you coould always get on some mods, some really add hard time, try to survive that fortress defense mode on hard, sure you can, but its hell harder. Also the post apocalyptic change lots of stuff, i have yet to see a siege tho. You better not rely on farming early on... and hunting? everything want to rip your head off... Your left with fishing! and livestock butchering untill you start getting farm products. There is some other mods that is interessting!
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Re: An Idea: Procedurally Generated DF
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2012, 07:20:59 pm »
Quote from: Captain Crazy on May 20, 2012, 08:51:46 pm
OP, I'd love to take part in this because I loves me some procedurally generated stuff.

You need basic things like quadrupedal bodies, insectoid & arachnoid bodies, shelled torsos, stingers, and tentacles, right? Then you'd let the program assemble them into creatures, with chitinous or feather-bound or fleshed bodies or what have you, correct?

That's basically the idea, yes.
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