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Voting closed: April 07, 2013, 10:34:35 am

[GreatWyrmGold]

((I'm one of those crazies that differentiates.  Wyverns are the realistic sort of dragon that only has four limbs- two wings and two legs.  "Dragons" (I've always called them the "european variety") are your traditional four-legged two-winged fantasy dragons.  I personally prefer the latter, because the former look less awesome to me for whatever reason.

Before anybody jumps in to say it's stupid semantics, it's a categorization of dragon.  They're both dragons, just different.  Just like how a "truck" and "van" are both large vehicles, but are different.  Some people prefer one over the other, and it's simpler to say "truck" than "big car with a small enclosed cab and a large bed for holding stuff behind it".

Therefore, complaining about Skyrim having Wyverns does make sense- still pedantic, but not because of the name.))

((I'd say it's more like the division between "truck" and "automobile," because for me "dragon" includes everything from ampitheres to Eastern dragons to, well, Western dragons...but aside from that I agree.))


((P.S. My whole XCOM adventure, in three consecutive posts! I'm not sure if I passed 80k characters or just divided it badly.))

[Xantalos]

((I like Terry Pratchett's view on it.  Somewhere- and I can't find the source after a quick Google- he basically said that both labels were bogus, and fiction is fiction is fiction.  In the end, they're all the same story.))

That's what I was trying to say

SETTINGS WITH BONAFIDE MAGIC, GODS, ETC ARE SCIFI
SCIFI IS JUST FANTASY THAT'S BETTER EXPLAINED
DONE))

((Wrong, so wrong. What the heck is wrong with you? Look at the Big Three--Asimov, Clarke, Heinlein. Three of the founders of science fiction, used hard science. With a few exceptions, not a scrap of "fantastic" elements in them. 90% of their stories were rigidly following scientific laws; heck, Heinlein calculated orbital vectors and such for The Rolling Stones! Many science fiction authors since then have followed in their footsteps, keeping their science fiction hard. How dare you say "Sci-Fi is just Fantasy that's better explained?
And the sci-fi that's just "fantasy in space with robots and lasers" or whatever is also that stuff that isn't explained.))

It appears I have commit hereticisy. Truly territroubling.
But still, generally fantasy follows internal rules, if not the laws of mathphysics. It's just that hard science books go to the trouble of keeping themselves accurate to the real world, while fantasy uses it's own rules, not the real world's, and often doesn't explain them.
In other news, thank you for showing me how to press a butthurt button. I know a lot now.
The hell did this argument start anyway? The pedantic is making my head sizzle.

[GreatWyrmGold]

((I think it started when I made a joke about mixing science fiction and fantasy under "fantasy" being punished by being bludgeoned by cyberpunk novels. Though now that I think about it, it's usually under science fiction. So, I could bludgeon them with LotR books if I felt mean, but most fantasy books would work.))

[PyroDesu]

Spoiler: XCOMMANDMENT (click to show/hide)

GWG, what usually happens to you when you crash? Screen go dark, but not completely black, and the game just lock up?

Because that's how I crashed just recently. Right after finishing a freaking attempted alien zombie apocalypse mission, which involved investigating a town, finding zombies, going further in, finding a shark infested by a chryssalid, going in further, and the chryssalids had turned a whale (on a whaling ship crashed into the town) into a hive. Turn on the ship's transponder, and run for the evac point while being chased by a horde of constantly-spawning chryssalids.

[Corsair]

"crap crap crap crap!"
leave radiation death zone post-haste

[smurfingtonthethird]

Spoiler: XCOMMANDMENT (click to show/hide)

GWG, what usually happens to you when you crash? Screen go dark, but not completely black, and the game just lock up?

Because that's how I crashed just recently. Right after finishing a freaking attempted alien zombie apocalypse mission, which involved investigating a town, finding zombies, going further in, finding a shark infested by a chryssalid, going in further, and the chryssalids had turned a whale (on a whaling ship crashed into the town) into a hive. Turn on the ship's transponder, and run for the evac point while being chased by a horde of constantly-spawning chryssalids.

On that note, whats the GR universe version of the Infestation? (Examples include: Zerg, Aliens (From the movie of same name), Tyranids)

[PyroDesu]

Spoiler: XCOMMANDMENT (click to show/hide)

GWG, what usually happens to you when you crash? Screen go dark, but not completely black, and the game just lock up?

Because that's how I crashed just recently. Right after finishing a freaking attempted alien zombie apocalypse mission, which involved investigating a town, finding zombies, going further in, finding a shark infested by a chryssalid, going in further, and the chryssalids had turned a whale (on a whaling ship crashed into the town) into a hive. Turn on the ship's transponder, and run for the evac point while being chased by a horde of constantly-spawning chryssalids.

On that note, whats the GR universe version of the Infestation? (Examples include: Zerg, Aliens (From the movie of same name), Tyranids)

((For one, put your OOC in double brackets. For another, if you meant ER universe, there isn't one. Nor does there need to be.))

[Harry Baldman]

((For one, put your OOC in double brackets. For another, if you meant ER universe, there isn't one. Nor does there need to be.))

((Well, there are the Altered, though they're theoretically extinct.))

[Sean Mirrsen]

Spoiler: XCOMMANDMENT (click to show/hide)

GWG, what usually happens to you when you crash? Screen go dark, but not completely black, and the game just lock up?

Because that's how I crashed just recently. Right after finishing a freaking attempted alien zombie apocalypse mission, which involved investigating a town, finding zombies, going further in, finding a shark infested by a chryssalid, going in further, and the chryssalids had turned a whale (on a whaling ship crashed into the town) into a hive. Turn on the ship's transponder, and run for the evac point while being chased by a horde of constantly-spawning chryssalids.

On that note, whats the GR universe version of the Infestation? (Examples include: Zerg, Aliens (From the movie of same name), Tyranids)

((For one, put your OOC in double brackets. For another, if you meant ER universe, there isn't one. Nor does there need to be.))

((That's not to say there couldn't be. The Altered aren't an infestation (at the moment, far as we know), and they were more of an Advancing Wall of Doom in their prime. And either the sharkmist or the earworm could have been a more literal infestation, had they not been contained.))

[NAV]

((For one, put your OOC in double brackets. For another, if you meant ER universe, there isn't one. Nor does there need to be.))

((Well, there are the Altered, though they're theoretically extinct.))

((Not entirely extinct. Ivan's still not dead.))

[kisame12794]

((Well, apparently Ivan is not a "true" altered.))

[BFEL]

Spoiler: XCOMPLICATEDWAYOFFITTINGINTOTHEXCOMTHING (click to show/hide)

GWG you mentioned that SHIVs are worthless and they were, but if you ever leap for the EW expansion they go hilariously far the other way, they can become more useful then...well entire squads really
They end up getting crazy high health after a few upgrades, plus become the only unit type to get unrestricted health REGEN (MECs can regen up to 6 points, and a certain genemod lets you regen up to the units health minus armor bonus) become extremely accurate and...the list goes on

As for tips, I would say definitely prioritize Asia for satellites if no one else is flipping their shit. Because engineers. Also all that matters in the early game is throwing out satellites and uplinks, make DAMN sure you abuse the hell out of adjacency bonuses for the uplinks. When abductions happen, always go for engineer reward if available and no one else is hyperventilating.

The actual battles are kind of something you have to figure out on your own, but until then just go slow and use overwatch religiously until the terror missions put you on a timer.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Spoiler: XCOMMANDMENT (click to show/hide)

GWG, what usually happens to you when you crash? Screen go dark, but not completely black, and the game just lock up?

Because that's how I crashed just recently. Right after finishing a freaking attempted alien zombie apocalypse mission, which involved investigating a town, finding zombies, going further in, finding a shark infested by a chryssalid, going in further, and the chryssalids had turned a whale (on a whaling ship crashed into the town) into a hive. Turn on the ship's transponder, and run for the evac point while being chased by a horde of constantly-spawning chryssalids.

((More often, when I alt-tab to the game, it doesn't open and instead I get a message box saying it has stopped working.
I don't really remember what happened when it crashed with the Steam Community browser, but it happened when I was trying to get back to the game. It...sorta froze and closed, I think?))

Spoiler: XCOMPLICATEDWAYOFFITTINGINTOTHEXCOMTHING (click to show/hide)

GWG you mentioned that SHIVs are worthless and they were, but if you ever leap for the EW expansion they go hilariously far the other way, they can become more useful then...well entire squads really
They end up getting crazy high health after a few upgrades, plus become the only unit type to get unrestricted health REGEN (MECs can regen up to 6 points, and a certain genemod lets you regen up to the units health minus armor bonus) become extremely accurate and...the list goes on

As for tips, I would say definitely prioritize Asia for satellites if no one else is flipping their shit. Because engineers. Also all that matters in the early game is throwing out satellites and uplinks, make DAMN sure you abuse the hell out of adjacency bonuses for the uplinks. When abductions happen, always go for engineer reward if available and no one else is hyperventilating.

The actual battles are kind of something you have to figure out on your own, but until then just go slow and use overwatch religiously until the terror missions put you on a timer.

((Advice noted.))

[Parisbre56]

((Weren't there those fungus things that took over planets?))

[GreatWyrmGold]

((Which? The Altered? No, those are...not really fitting definitions of life. They're more like synthflesh crossed with John Carpenter's thing.))