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[SharkForce]

Just trying to wrap my head around it. it *seems* like it shouldn't be too hard to make a reaction that, say, requires 5 bolts in stacks of 1 each, and turns them into a stack of 5 (you could then follow up with a reaction to take 5 stacks of 5, and make one stack of 25).

but then, i have *extremely* little experience in modding the game, so i'm just curious if there's something obvious that i've missed (or perhaps it's quite possible that people simply don't care enough to have done this yet).

also, just to keep things reasonable, it should probably set the exp gained from this activity to zero i would think. not sure at all how possible that is.

[i2amroy]

The largest problem with doing something like this is that reactions deal with the number of stacks, not the number of bolts in each. As such you certainly could make a reaction that took 5 stacks of bolts and gave you 1 stack of 5 bolts. However it will take stacks of any size, including the ones that it just made. So a reaction like that could just as easily take 5 stacks of 25 bolts each and make 1 stack of 5 bolts, effectively destroying your bolts.

[SharkForce]

The largest problem with doing something like this is that reactions deal with the number of stacks, not the number of bolts in each. As such you certainly could make a reaction that took 5 stacks of bolts and gave you 1 stack of 5 bolts. However it will take stacks of any size, including the ones that it just made. So a reaction like that could just as easily take 5 stacks of 25 bolts each and make 1 stack of 5 bolts, effectively destroying your bolts.

huh. how do they make bone crafting work (that is, the kinds of bone crafting that *don't* use up the entire stack...)

i suppose alternately i could look to cooking for inspiration. that seems to take stack size into account as well.

so much for my hopes of just looking up the proper names to plug in though =S

[i2amroy]

Bone crafting is hardcoded and as such, effectively circumvents all of the pesky limits that us modders need to put up with.

At least dwarves will pick up several stacks now and put them in their quivers, they used to only pick up one stack, period.

[SharkForce]

Bone crafting is hardcoded and as such, effectively circumvents all of the pesky limits that us modders need to put up with.

At least dwarves will pick up several stacks now and put them in their quivers, they used to only pick up one stack, period.

is cooking also hardcoded?

[narhiril]

Bone crafting is hardcoded and as such, effectively circumvents all of the pesky limits that us modders need to put up with.

At least dwarves will pick up several stacks now and put them in their quivers, they used to only pick up one stack, period.

is cooking also hardcoded?

Sort of.  You can create food in a custom reaction, but it won't have the ingredients list that normal prepared food does.

[Gizogin]

Bone crafting is hardcoded and as such, effectively circumvents all of the pesky limits that us modders need to put up with.

At least dwarves will pick up several stacks now and put them in their quivers, they used to only pick up one stack, period.

is cooking also hardcoded?

Sort of.  You can create food in a custom reaction, but it won't have the ingredients list that normal prepared food does.

Well, you can create custom cooked meals, but you cannot make them take more than four or fewer than two ingredients.  For example, you could make a "pizza" prepared meal that takes two ingredients; then, when you order your dwarves to make a basic meal, they'd cook it as normal, and the meal would be either a biscuit or a pizza, decided randomly.
Other than that, you can't change the actual in-game cooking.

[Rose]

It'd proably be easier to write a dfhack plugin that'll do it.

[narhiril]

It'd proably be easier to write a dfhack plugin that'll do it.

"dfnoms"

[SharkForce]

Bone crafting is hardcoded and as such, effectively circumvents all of the pesky limits that us modders need to put up with.

At least dwarves will pick up several stacks now and put them in their quivers, they used to only pick up one stack, period.

is cooking also hardcoded?

Sort of.  You can create food in a custom reaction, but it won't have the ingredients list that normal prepared food does.

Well, you can create custom cooked meals, but you cannot make them take more than four or fewer than two ingredients.  For example, you could make a "pizza" prepared meal that takes two ingredients; then, when you order your dwarves to make a basic meal, they'd cook it as normal, and the meal would be either a biscuit or a pizza, decided randomly.
Other than that, you can't change the actual in-game cooking.

hmmm... perhaps a better way to phrase my question (though it's sounding like the answer is that it won't work):

can i just borrow the code from cooking that takes 2-4 stacks of something and combines it into 1 bigger stack (usually of something else, but i'd like it to be the same thing) and make it work for bolts?

[i2amroy]

No. Cooking is a mostly hardcoded thing, that works with a completely different format then reactions, and cannot be utilized in this case.