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[AWdeV]

-15?! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaetc....t the actual hell?!

[Blizzlord]

-15?! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaetc....t the actual hell?!

+15. In hell.

[AWdeV]

z15 is 15 above ground.   

[Blizzlord]

z15 is 15 above ground. 

146 or something for me, with the bottom being 70 zlevels below.

[GavJ]

You are making absolutely no sense, Blizz. I have a suspicion you are just saying random numbers out of context to be intentionally confusing, even.

[Blizzlord]

You are making absolutely no sense, Blizz. I have a suspicion you are just saying random numbers out of context to be intentionally confusing, even.

2 different occasions. In one world I know it ended at +15, while in another the surface was at about 146 and the lowest level about 70 levels down.

[AWdeV]

Right, so "surface" is for you 146. It would then sort of make sense to have hell at 15, I guess.

However, that's not how it goes in my fort. In my fort 0 = surface, with my dump at -3, the stone to be hauled at -10 and the third cavern and such probably somewhere around -90.

[Rose]

how is 0 the surface on your fort?

100 is sea level.

[Blizzlord]

Right, so "surface" is for you 146. It would then sort of make sense to have hell at 15, I guess.

However, that's not how it goes in my fort. In my fort 0 = surface, with my dump at -3, the stone to be hauled at -10 and the third cavern and such probably somewhere around -90.

Now I get what you are saying. Sorry If you are getting confused but it is 9 in the evening up here in sweden.

[GavJ]

You are making absolutely no sense, Blizz. I have a suspicion you are just saying random numbers out of context to be intentionally confusing, even.

2 different occasions. In one world I know it ended at +15, while in another the surface was at about 146 and the lowest level about 70 levels down.

Ah.  Well there is the confusion, because vanilla DF has higher things being ABOVE zero, and lower things being BELOW zero, with zero as I believe the highest original z level with land in it.  It says right over on the right hand side of the screen, complete with a big old + or (vertical) - sign, and red black or green color coding... So people are going to assume that you are speaking in line with that system unless otherwise specified.

[Blizzlord]

You are making absolutely no sense, Blizz. I have a suspicion you are just saying random numbers out of context to be intentionally confusing, even.

2 different occasions. In one world I know it ended at +15, while in another the surface was at about 146 and the lowest level about 70 levels down.

Ah.  Well there is the confusion, because vanilla DF has higher things being ABOVE zero, and lower things being BELOW zero, with zero as I believe the highest original z level with land in it.  It says right over on the right hand side of the screen, complete with a big old + or (vertical) - sign, and red black or green color coding... So people are going to assume that you are speaking in line with that system unless otherwise specified.

I play vanilla.

[Rose]

There's actually 2 different height indicators.

one is height above the alleged ground level for that embark square, the other is the absolute height

The absolute height is 100 at sea level, and goes up to a max of about 280 or so, in general.

[AWdeV]

I'm talking about the single height indicator that shows up for me. Which firmly puts surface with my hatch covers, walls, bridge, above-ground farms etc. firmly at zeeeeeeroooooooo.

[decius]

I typically see two different numbers. One is relative to ground level, and changes with scrolling. One seems to be absolute, even though it can go negative.

In areas with a lot of verticality, I've dug about a hundred levels below the ground to find the first cavern. In my latest embark, the wagon is on level 106 and the bottom of the magma sea is on level -17.

Relative to ground level is at the top-right, and absolute is at the bottom-right.

[Blizzlord]

I typically see two different numbers. One is relative to ground level, and changes with scrolling. One seems to be absolute, even though it can go negative.

In areas with a lot of verticality, I've dug about a hundred levels below the ground to find the first cavern. In my latest embark, the wagon is on level 106 and the bottom of the magma sea is on level -17.

Relative to ground level is at the top-right, and absolute is at the bottom-right.

I always look at the bottom right.