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psychologicalshock

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Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« on: April 01, 2012, 01:06:34 am »

What I did was lower the GFPS to 30 and turn off temperature, do either of those parameters really matter?
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kaijyuu

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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 01:13:56 am »

Temperature sure as hell does.

GFPS not so much, unless you're running on one core.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 01:14:08 am »

The change in FPS was MASSIVE, went from like 25 to 100
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 01:14:38 am »

Temperature sure as hell does.

GFPS not so much, unless you're running on one core.
It's a shame but I can't play the game at the speed it was at before. When does temperature matter? I only use magma for my forges.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 01:16:36 am »

Items, mainly. They have to check each frame if they're melting and whatnot.

Units as well, but not to the same degree.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.

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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 01:18:55 am »

The only case in which I can think of temperature effecting me was when my lye froze.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 01:25:16 am »

The only case in which I can think of temperature effecting me was when my lye froze.

It isn't so much that things freezing or melting cause issues (though certainly large-scale freezing, melting, or boiling [e.g. a freezing river] can), but that, as kaijyuu said, items and units have to check their temperature every frame to determine their state of matter. There are also issues associated with things like inefficient magma pumpstacks which cause tiles to repeatedly heat and cool.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2012, 02:15:02 am »

Turning off temperature will result in the follow:

 - Water will not evaporate or freeze, even in scorching or freezing biomes.
 - Magma will not burn creatures or set things on fire
 - Boiling/freezing extract, fire breath, etc will no longer harm living creatures, nor set environments on fire

As you can see, if you want to turn temperature off and not have it be "cheating", you shouldn't abuse magma, avoid freezing/scorching biomes, and turn temperature on temporarily when enemies with fire or ice related attacks show up.
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psychologicalshock

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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2012, 02:32:37 am »

Turning off temperature will result in the follow:

 - Water will not evaporate or freeze, even in scorching or freezing biomes.
 - Magma will not burn creatures or set things on fire
 - Boiling/freezing extract, fire breath, etc will no longer harm living creatures, nor set environments on fire

As you can see, if you want to turn temperature off and not have it be "cheating", you shouldn't abuse magma, avoid freezing/scorching biomes, and turn temperature on temporarily when enemies with fire or ice related attacks show up.
None of that stuff happens much in my fortress ; however, I will turn it on when I fight the demons of hell.

The only temperature-based attack ive seen are dragon breathe attacks so I will turn temp on for those.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2012, 02:38:32 am »

Honestly, for how limited in effect temperature is it seems to hog up way TOO many cycles. Might be a good candidate for offloading onto another processor.
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Re: Saved myself from FPS death, does it matter?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2012, 02:42:52 am »

Multithreading ain't happening anytime soon.

The only temperature-based attack ive seen are dragon breathe attacks so I will turn temp on for those.
Titans, forgotten beasts, and demons can all potentially breathe fire as well.

Notably things can catch on fire with temperature off. My militia commander has been on fire for over 2 years in one of my forts after getting hit by a fire breath attack.
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For, in order that men should resist injustice, something more is necessary than that they should think injustice unpleasant. They must think injustice absurd; above all, they must think it startling. They must retain the violence of a virgin astonishment. When the pessimist looks at any infamy, it is to him, after all, only a repetition of the infamy of existence. But the optimist sees injustice as something discordant and unexpected, and it stings him into action.