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« Reply #2085 on: August 04, 2012, 09:31:21 am »

Anyone know of a mod like Treefeller or Timber for 1.3.1?
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« Reply #2086 on: August 04, 2012, 10:55:26 am »

Be patient. I doubt that all mods are updated already, especially those non-SMP compatible some may even be dropped.
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« Reply #2087 on: August 04, 2012, 11:16:59 am »

Is it true that there aren't IC2 release plans for 1.3?
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« Reply #2088 on: August 04, 2012, 11:19:05 am »

I see no mention of it on Alblabla's site. Nor has there been any mention in any of the mod IRCs I hang around in.
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« Reply #2089 on: August 04, 2012, 11:49:14 am »

Mayby they are just waiting for 1.3.2/1.3.3?
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Knowing Belgium, everyone will vote for themselves out of mistrust for anyone else, and some kind of weird direct democracy coalition will need to be formed from 11 million or so individuals.

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« Reply #2090 on: August 04, 2012, 11:53:23 am »

It's mentioned in one place on the IC forums. Side note: stay out of this cesspool if you value your sanity. I just ran across another "OMG TEKKIT EVIL!!!" discussion.

I'm not sure where that information came from.
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« Reply #2091 on: August 04, 2012, 11:58:54 am »

It's mentioned in one place on the IC forums. Side note: stay out of this cesspool if you value your sanity. I just ran across another "OMG TEKKIT EVIL!!!" discussion.

I'm not sure where that information came from.
So it looks like they'll end up upadating if all the other tech mod makers do likewise. Cheers for the link.
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« Reply #2092 on: August 04, 2012, 12:02:43 pm »

Yeah, which is totally why we had XcompWiz contacting us and asking us to change his donation link to default to Euros :P
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« Reply #2093 on: August 04, 2012, 01:08:55 pm »

Remember: 60% of people in the world are stupid. 60% of people are hostile. These often overlap. Minecraft projects often somehow exclude half of the non-stupid people and attract twice as many hostile people as usual.

*all numbers are made up
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« Reply #2094 on: August 04, 2012, 03:40:50 pm »

I think, modmaking attracts a lot of non-"professional" programmers, and these tend to be more misinformed about what the law actually says you can do and whether any stupid crap you write on a box that says "license" is valid and somehow binding. And more "OMG tekitman is stealing alblaka's bits" people.


But that's just an hypothesis.
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« Reply #2095 on: August 04, 2012, 04:44:33 pm »

Fun fact: most "real" EULAs are illegal in plenty of jurisdictions. Some rights just can't be given up, even if you actually read and sign something in front of witnesses. That's why most or all professional EULAs say that all parts are independent, because they know that at least some parts ARE unconstitutional in the USA, Canada, and Great Britain.
And EULAs aren't really the same as proper contracts anyway. Some courts basically ruled "nobody reads those anyway" and invalidated them as contracts, while others raise the issue of them being previously unmentioned limitations thrown up in the face of somebody who already purchased a product or service and cannot receive a refund. Some cases even had contracts that could not be READ until they were "signed" ("If you break the shrink-wrap on this box, you agree to the enclosed licence agreement" and other such cases) Plus the fact that even the modern ones that have a specific button to click are basically signing a blank contract (it is automatically binding if they change it, etc.)


You can kind of excuse amatures for holding a seriously warped perspective on law, growing up on that kind of stuff. It does, honestly, look to an inexperienced observer like you can write anything in the licence box and sue over it. And software companies like perpetuating that illusion, because it lets them "settle out of court" on offences that are OUT OF THEIR RIGHTS to take people to court over. It's all intimidation.
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« Reply #2096 on: August 04, 2012, 05:39:35 pm »

Fun fact: most "real" EULAs are illegal in plenty of jurisdictions. Some rights just can't be given up, even if you actually read and sign something in front of witnesses. That's why most or all professional EULAs say that all parts are independent, because they know that at least some parts ARE unconstitutional in the USA, Canada, and Great Britain.
And EULAs aren't really the same as proper contracts anyway. Some courts basically ruled "nobody reads those anyway" and invalidated them as contracts, while others raise the issue of them being previously unmentioned limitations thrown up in the face of somebody who already purchased a product or service and cannot receive a refund. Some cases even had contracts that could not be READ until they were "signed" ("If you break the shrink-wrap on this box, you agree to the enclosed licence agreement" and other such cases) Plus the fact that even the modern ones that have a specific button to click are basically signing a blank contract (it is automatically binding if they change it, etc.)


You can kind of excuse amatures for holding a seriously warped perspective on law, growing up on that kind of stuff. It does, honestly, look to an inexperienced observer like you can write anything in the licence box and sue over it. And software companies like perpetuating that illusion, because it lets them "settle out of court" on offences that are OUT OF THEIR RIGHTS to take people to court over. It's all intimidation.
Pretty much this. There was even one case of a EULA stating:
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By placing an order via this Web site on the first day of the fourth month of the year 2010 Anno Domini, you agree to grant Us a non transferable option to claim, for now and for ever more, your immortal soul. Should We wish to exercise this option, you agree to surrender your immortal soul, and any claim you may have on it, within 5 (five) working days of receiving written notification from gamesation.co.uk or one of its duly authorised minions. We reserve the right to serve such notice in 6 (six) foot high letters of fire, however we can accept no liability for any loss or damage caused by such an act.

If you a) do not believe you have an immortal soul, b) have already given it to another party, or c) do not wish to grant Us such a license, please click the link below to nullify this sub-clause and proceed with your transaction.
So yeah, they aren't seen as particularly binding in court.
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« Reply #2097 on: August 04, 2012, 07:11:28 pm »

Oh wow. Somebody's legal department has a sense of humour. The world is coming to an end!
Come to think of it, EULAs are an interesting spot for easter eggs, as almost NOBODY will ever find them...
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« Reply #2098 on: August 04, 2012, 07:16:47 pm »

Sensei had a thread in the LP section where he read EULAs
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« Reply #2099 on: August 04, 2012, 09:59:47 pm »

Pretty much this. There was even one case of a EULA stating:
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By placing an order via this Web site on the first day of the fourth month of the year 2010 Anno Domini, you agree to grant Us a non transferable option to claim, for now and for ever more, your immortal soul. Should We wish to exercise this option, you agree to surrender your immortal soul, and any claim you may have on it, within 5 (five) working days of receiving written notification from gamesation.co.uk or one of its duly authorised minions. We reserve the right to serve such notice in 6 (six) foot high letters of fire, however we can accept no liability for any loss or damage caused by such an act.

No wonder my life felt kind of empty since that day..

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