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Tired of goblin lashers
« on: March 26, 2012, 06:31:48 am »

These guys bring TMF (too much fun) to the table when you try to run a military defence fort without copious amounts of traps.

How can I disable the goblin civ from using whips?
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2012, 06:38:07 am »

It's in the raws somewhere, I forgot where. But perhaps it's better to make whips less lethal?
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 06:42:43 am »

HOLY DWARF CARPMAGEDDON!

A flaming titan arrived at the same time as the goblin army, which was all marks- and lashergoblins. The map is now soundly devastated by fire and blood, half my fort is dead and one remaining speargoblin with 4 names is prowling the landscape.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 07:31:49 am »

HOLY DWARF CARPMAGEDDON!

A flaming titan arrived at the same time as the goblin army, which was all marks- and lashergoblins. The map is now soundly devastated by fire and blood, half my fort is dead and one remaining speargoblin with 4 names is prowling the landscape.

congrats, you won, hope you enjoyed the fun :-)
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 07:41:56 am »

I refuse to win yet. Even if 1/5 of the population is all that remains. God, the tantrum spirals, berserking and all over misery caused by 80 dead dwarves is something you do not recover from immediatly. All the specialist workers died and whatever military dwarves that survived have been disbanded.

The worst part is that I had a actually trained and steel-bearing military when the goblins came.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 07:55:35 am »

To get rid of goblin lashers go to entity_default, find [ENTITY:EVIL], and remove [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP] and [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE].

And good luck cleaning up that mess. XP
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 07:58:22 am »

A large part of the dead population was children and any overseer will know the joy of having a a big fort with infrastructure complete populated by a small amount of dwarves. The way I see, this was nature's acknowledgement of the fort being too big.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 08:01:19 am »


To get rid of goblin lashers go to entity_default, find [ENTITY:EVIL], and remove [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_WHIP] and [WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_SCOURGE].

This will work, but pretty sure it will only work on new world gens.

The other option is to nerf the whips and lashes in the weapon raw of the savegame, which can be done without genning a new world.

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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 08:16:22 am »

How does lasher vs lasher fights play out? Is it a all out slaughter fest or will the higher skilled and better plated armor do? I remember armor being quite useless vs whips
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 08:19:36 am »

Isn't there a community-suggested setting for whips/scourges? As I recall, the only reason they're so broken is because they aren't working as intended. Rather then the game consider only a small part of the whip as the actual weapon, it thinks the entire whip is being used... something like that.

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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 09:00:40 am »

I mod the whip's weight quite a lot, slowing down the lasher. Whips can be devastating, but they are extremely awkward to use in extended melee combat.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 09:35:11 am »

Oh nice. Another wave of lashers, JUST BEFORE THE BRIDGE COULD BE COMPLETED.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 09:59:57 am »

The way I see, this was nature's acknowledgement of the fort being too big.
The way I see, a fortress can never get too big.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 10:04:55 am »

List of bouncebacks:

From 107 to 27
From 47 to 6

Now: from 6 to 17!

This fort is turning epic.
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Re: Tired of goblin lashers
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 10:08:44 am »

Oh nice. Another wave of lashers, JUST BEFORE THE BRIDGE COULD BE COMPLETED.

Try getting a 3-squad siege of lashers, all riding voracious cave crawlers, all led by elite crossbowmen.

Up goes the drawbridge... forget the dwarven caravan halfway to the fortress.
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