Topic: The worst bug - 34.06 poll (Read 31106 times)

Urist McDepravity · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2012, 11:18:06 pm »

bug #4230 - bucket with water inside becomes unusable - wasn't this one fixed in .06?

My personal vote is #5312, however I wish for a new feature of intentional (by dwarves themself) permanent corpse disposal methods (particularly, burning them) rather than reanimation fix. Its sad that dwarfs know how to melt steel, but don't know how to put zombie on fire.

Kogut · « **Reply #31 on:** March 24, 2012, 03:45:38 am »

Quote from: JasonMel on March 23, 2012, 07:32:31 pm

I would like to see 287/3147 resolved: Hospital usage of thread/cloth fills stockpiles with thread/cloth useless for anything but the hospital.

Issue 895 is also pretty bad: Items disappear (become invisible) after getting pushed by flowing fluid.

Bug #3732: Butchering a corpse yields only 1 skin, regardless of size

replaced with

Bugs #287 & #3147: Medical Dwarfs prefer using non-hospital stockpiles than hospital stocks

Quote from: Urist McDepravity on March 23, 2012, 11:18:06 pm

bug #4230 - bucket with water inside becomes unusable - wasn't this one fixed in .06?

My personal vote is #5312, however I wish for a new feature of intentional (by dwarves themself) permanent corpse disposal methods (particularly, burning them) rather than reanimation fix. Its sad that dwarfs know how to melt steel, but don't know how to put zombie on fire.

#1324 - "buckets full of water were used to produce lye" was fixed but "bucket with water inside becomes unusable" is still open. I replaced

Bug #524: Liquid glob material breath attacks come out solid

with

Bug #5312: Undead reanimate too quickly (and forever)

Robsoie · « **Reply #32 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:04:06 pm »

Quote from: Brotato on March 23, 2012, 11:47:23 am

Blunt weapons are the pits for me. They should be completely smashing the faces of the opposition; like in Adventure Mode. Instead they're near worthless.

Have you observed this bug in the Fortress mode of the 0.34.x releases ?

I have run several forts in various 0.34.x release and i noticed in the combat logs those that the hammerdwarves lot of time were ending an enemy smashing the skull/tearing the brain and the weapon -stuck- in the wound.
Either i've been very lucky in every of my forts, or the 0.31.x bug regarding the blunt weapon is fixed.

To me, the most annoying bug is the adventure mode performance, i have yet to see any slowdown in my 0.34.x +100pop fortresses even when i was in a middle of a siege with large amount of goblins that happened to popup at the same time of a siege with lots of undead.
While if i play a character in adventure mode even when in the middle of nowhere with none around, the game is painfully crawling regularly.

Jacob/Lee · « **Reply #33 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:15:24 pm »

Bug #4552: Siegers waiting by bodies of dead leaders. Sieges have lasted far longer than they should because of this bug.

NW_Kohaku · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:16:30 pm »

Quote from: Robsoie on March 24, 2012, 05:04:06 pm

Quote from: Brotato on March 23, 2012, 11:47:23 am
Blunt weapons are the pits for me. They should be completely smashing the faces of the opposition; like in Adventure Mode. Instead they're near worthless.
Have you observed this bug in the Fortress mode of the 0.34.x releases ?

I have run several forts in various 0.34.x release and i noticed in the combat logs those that the hammerdwarves lot of time were ending an enemy smashing the skull/tearing the brain and the weapon -stuck- in the wound.
Either i've been very lucky in every of my forts, or the 0.31.x bug regarding the blunt weapon is fixed.

To me, the most annoying bug is the adventure mode performance, i have yet to see any slowdown in my 0.34.x +100pop fortresses even when i was in a middle of a siege with large amount of goblins that happened to popup at the same time of a siege with lots of undead.
While if i play a character in adventure mode even when in the middle of nowhere with none around, the game is painfully crawling regularly.

The problem with blunt weapons is that they tend to only be capable of getting a kill with a blow to the brain.

This causes two problems, generally - one is that, if there are too many "opportunity" shots that let you hit some other body part, fortress dwarves won't attack the head and get the kill. The other is that some creatures don't have a brain, and that makes them nearly impossible to kill.

A good part of the problem is a lack of a "pulping" mechanic, since damage just doesn't seem cumulative. Once you've shattered a bone a couple times, it should just result in a limb being reduced to little more than a bag of soup that is suffering from tremendous internal bleeding.

Jacob/Lee · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:19:58 pm »

Hammers and other blunt weapons, while fairly useless against living creatures versus their pointy counterparts, are great for zombies since the damage accumulates and they will eventually just collapse into a heap until it is raised again.

Robsoie · « **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2012, 05:49:40 pm »

I tested in the arena in a 6 vs 6 battle using only "adequate" hammerdwarves (wielding iron warhammer) and indeed every kills have been from tearing the brain.
Though the battles (even 1 on 1) are quickly over (a dozen of seconds), there's always a brain tearing blow in a few seconds of battle.
(and they're ressourceful in case of non-brain tearing possible)

RabblerouserGT · « **Reply #37 on:** March 24, 2012, 06:21:11 pm »

Quote from: JasonMel on March 23, 2012, 07:52:12 pm

Also, didn't Toady One already address 5611, regarding the adventure mode availability of metal weapons and armor here?

It's been brought to his attention, maybe, but it's still a problem in need of a solution.

As a whole, adventure mode doesn't seem as fleshed out as it could be. But at the same time, I realize Dwarf Fortress mode is (rightfully) the max priority.

NW_Kohaku · « **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2012, 06:34:34 pm »

Quote from: RabblerouserGT on March 24, 2012, 06:21:11 pm

It's been brought to his attention, maybe, but it's still a problem in need of a solution.

As a whole, adventure mode doesn't seem as fleshed out as it could be. But at the same time, I realize Dwarf Fortress mode is (rightfully) the max priority.

Technically, the last big push has been for Adventure Mode to not be so bare-bones anymore.

Since there was so little done for Adventure Mode, there are much fewer Adventure Mode players, and hence, fewer Adventure Mode advocates, and there were people who were upset because they were only interested in Fortress Mode.

Fieari · « **Reply #39 on:** March 25, 2012, 10:34:15 am »

I only play adventure mode now, and find it a lot more fun... but bug 5102 has really put a damper on things, by making a large percentage of quests unsolvable by a mortal character.

It also occurs to me that there's an inconsistency for the "Quest Compass". For monsters in lairs, the quest compass always points to the entrance of the lair, while for sewers, the quest compass points to the ground directly overhead the creature, making them nearly impossible to find underground, as underground portions are not necessarily connected, and finding sewer entrances can be dastardly difficult if not outright impossible. Would that be something to report on mantis, or suggest in the suggestion forum?

thvaz · « **Reply #40 on:** March 25, 2012, 11:07:07 am »

Quote from: Fieari on March 25, 2012, 10:34:15 am

I only play adventure mode now, and find it a lot more fun... but bug 5102 has really put a damper on things, by making a large percentage of quests unsolvable by a mortal character.

It also occurs to me that there's an inconsistency for the "Quest Compass". For monsters in lairs, the quest compass always points to the entrance of the lair, while for sewers, the quest compass points to the ground directly overhead the creature, making them nearly impossible to find underground, as underground portions are not necessarily connected, and finding sewer entrances can be dastardly difficult if not outright impossible. Would that be something to report on mantis, or suggest in the suggestion forum?

There are a lot of problems with adventure mode right now.

*Your companions are nothing more than meatshields. They don't have any personality,they are very stupid (they can't even get their weapons back if they drop them) and are generally very incompetent in combat (even legendary ones).
*Lots of bugs like the one you cited
*Only human civilizations are slightly developed (there are no dwarven, elven or goblin cities to visit)
*The world doesn't look alive, it is in fact "frozen" and everything happens only as a reaction to your direct actions. Only ambushes are relatively dynamic - imagine how much funnier it would be if you was in a town in the moment of a megabeast attack)
*Lack of interesting quests - all of them resumes to killing something. Vampires and werewolves could be as well any other critter in the raws.
*Lack of rewards - you get nothing from quests other than a reputation that is used for nothing more than to allow you to get quests to kill more difficult beasts, and you can spend the loot you get in nothing besides food, as you get better armors in places other than the shops and you can't equip your companions.

Despise all these issues, it is fun for a while, and it is getting better and better, but it will take time to be as developed (and fun) as fortress mode is.

Kogut · « **Reply #41 on:** March 25, 2012, 12:55:02 pm »

Quote from: Fieari on March 25, 2012, 10:34:15 am

I only play adventure mode now, and find it a lot more fun... but bug 5102 has really put a damper on things, by making a large percentage of quests unsolvable by a mortal character.

"Bug #5102: Sewers inhabitants hanging out underwater near outflows (some of them stuck to walls)" added to the list.

thvaz · « **Reply #42 on:** March 25, 2012, 01:16:03 pm »

Since 0.34.06 I didn't have any problem with bug 535, so I find it weird people are voting in it. I tried setting up squads using civilian clothes, and they would change their armor to clothes as soon as they got inactive. Tried setting them to use mail shirts and breastplates, and they would use them correctly, so the layering problem is solved. They are properly using armor stands assigned to them too. They are upgrading their armors when there is a better one available. So, which problems are people still having with equipping soldiers?

Lysabild · « **Reply #43 on:** March 25, 2012, 03:33:58 pm »

Ah jesus christ, I accidently voted on the wrong thing.

Wanted to vote for:
Bug #1451: Military equipment interferes with civilian equipment (picks/axes/crossbows/quivers)
- 14 (6.5%)

But I did accidently vote for this:
Bug #3685: Goblin squads invading a fortress will kill their non-goblin squadmates, sparking loyalty cascade
- 3 (1.4%)

Urist McDepravity · « **Reply #44 on:** March 25, 2012, 04:31:21 pm »

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#5705 dwarf children die from embarassment at not being dressed at age 2

This one will be fixed soon, but still, I find it amusing.

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