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Easier Tantrum Spirals
« on: March 01, 2012, 05:33:51 pm »

I've suddenly realized something in my current fort, I get large numbers if immigrants who are spouses, siblings, parents, children, aunts, uncles, and cousins.  I just lost 8 military dwarves in a triple ambush, now I've got several unhappy dwarves from dead family.  This is gonna make the tantrum spiral much harder to avoid now.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 05:36:19 pm »

Legendary dining room is still the only friend a Dwarf needs

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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 05:40:16 pm »

My fortress exits are waterfall machines ^.^
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 05:42:22 pm »

How many of your Dwarfs actually leave your fort?

So messed up...

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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 05:43:01 pm »

Legendary dining room is still the only friend a Dwarf needs

This.

Oh so much.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 06:49:33 pm »

Sadly, it can be hard keeping them all busy so that they don't congregate and throw wild orgies "parties" in the legendary dining room all the time.

(Anyone else notice that the child production rate increases when the dwarves party?)
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 07:29:47 pm »

Sadly, it can be hard keeping them all busy so that they don't congregate and throw wild orgies "parties" in the legendary dining room all the time.

(Anyone else notice that the child production rate increases when the dwarves party?)

If they throw a party (and they can even if they are half done with a fortress critical series of tasks!) just go to the table your dining room is designated from and undesignate it, unpause for a second and then redesignate it.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 07:45:26 pm »

I don't think they throw parties in rooms that aren't designated as a meeting area, and don't throw parties in meeting areas from the i menu. So you could designate a room as a dining room without checking it as a meeting area, and then place a meeting area over it and not get any parties. my memory might be bad though.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 07:47:31 pm »

I don't think they throw parties in rooms that aren't designated as a meeting area, and don't throw parties in meeting areas from the i menu. So you could designate a room as a dining room without checking it as a meeting area, and then place a meeting area over it and not get any parties. my memory might be bad though.
This works, its what I do when I'm too busy for them to party
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 08:40:12 pm »

I refuse to designate meeting areas, after the nightmare that parties have caused in previous forts. Dining Room is just a dining room, statues are just statues, and that is that. Immigrants take forever to get into the fort, since they don't have a meeting room to path to, but they get there eventually.

I keep my dwarves happy with individual, engraved bedrooms, legendary dining rooms, and masterwork meals. Haven't had tantrums except in cases where a dwarf was the only one left, driven mad by every other dwarf dying, and also his legs were missing.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 11:57:37 am »

Main trick I use is to keep my military isolated from the civvies, since military takes most of the losses.  If you lose half a squad, and each dwarf lost in that squad has a ton of friends, that will nuke fortress morale really quick.  Can't do anything about relationships except maybe draft the loners.  If you keep your military fully scheduled with training and patrolling, they won't mingle much amongst themselves either.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 12:07:51 pm »

Haven't had tantrums except in cases where a dwarf was the only one left, driven mad by every other dwarf dying, and also his legs were missing.

Have I said I love this game? Because I love this game. I couldn't stop laughing at how that was just tacked on like it was a small, almost overlooked triviality.

Anyhow, masterwork platinum chains for prisons work wonders for stopping tantrum spirals if there's just a few people mad about family members dying. Make sure you have a few dwarves idling to feed them and everything should work out.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 02:55:04 pm »

Legendary dining room is still the only friend a Dwarf needs
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 03:02:53 pm »

I refuse to designate meeting areas, after the nightmare that parties have caused in previous forts. Dining Room is just a dining room, statues are just statues, and that is that. Immigrants take forever to get into the fort, since they don't have a meeting room to path to, but they get there eventually.

I keep my dwarves happy with individual, engraved bedrooms, legendary dining rooms, and masterwork meals. Haven't had tantrums except in cases where a dwarf was the only one left, driven mad by every other dwarf dying, and also his legs were missing.

I never designate meeting areas from tables/statues. I've always designated them from the i menu, that's the first way I learned to do it. I have also never seen my dwarves throw a party. Never.
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Re: Easier Tantrum Spirals
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 03:05:11 pm »

I never designate meeting areas from tables/statues. I've always designated them from the i menu, that's the first way I learned to do it. I have also never seen my dwarves throw a party. Never.

You might be incredibly lucky then :P

Or maybe Dwarfs will never have parties at meeting zones. Will try this out.
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