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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1293405 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #11130 on: January 07, 2016, 10:29:15 am »

Over a battalion worth of North African men popped up to commit sexual assaults? Sounds a helluva like manufactured thing to me.
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« Reply #11131 on: January 07, 2016, 11:10:24 am »

It's already the kind of thing that's been happening to women in immigrant heavy areas. This is just the first time it happens to westerners in any kind of substantial amounts, so it's the first time society cares.
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« Reply #11132 on: January 07, 2016, 11:54:04 am »

CRAZY DRUNK RADICAL ISLAMIST RAPE PARTY WITH KÖLSCH AND PORK SCHNITZEL.

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« Reply #11133 on: January 07, 2016, 12:01:54 pm »

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By the way, in response to Frumple's earlier comment that the number of 1000 referred to the revelers in the area in total, and the number of attackers was likely a couple of dozen at most.
Found an eyewitness account, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TOdMzOH1U

They were apparently so many perpetrators that the police didn't have enough transports to get them to prison. Then they ran out of space in prison and all the nearby prisons and had to let some walk free.

That's some seriously scary stuff.

Yeah, I feel quite sorry for the police in all of this. They're getting a lot of flak, and this is completely outside the realm of what they've had to deal with before. As the bloke in the video quotes the police as saying, it was a 'Civil-war-like situation'. How are the police supposed to deal with that? But they'll have to learn and adapt quickly, I suppose.


People also seem to forget that the police is severly overworked and understaffed even on a REGULAR New Year's Eve.


Also why does public response seem to be virtually dominated by people who are either apologetic or people who go "boo all Moslims/refugee's bad"

Why can't people just only hate the people who did this and want them punished and thrown out of the country without punishing people who did nothing wrong?
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« Reply #11134 on: January 07, 2016, 01:24:26 pm »

What cover up? I've seen a bunch of articles, and my public radio had a short segment on it just 20 minutes ago.
http://tribune.com.pk/story/1022911/german-broadcaster-sorry-for-slow-reporting-on-mob-assaults/

The rest of the German media has not apologized.

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By the way, in response to Frumple's earlier comment that the number of 1000 referred to the revelers in the area in total, and the number of attackers was likely a couple of dozen at most.
Found an eyewitness account, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TOdMzOH1U

They were apparently so many perpetrators that the police didn't have enough transports to get them to prison. Then they ran out of space in prison and all the nearby prisons and had to let some walk free.

That's some seriously scary stuff.

Yeah, I feel quite sorry for the police in all of this. They're getting a lot of flak, and this is completely outside the realm of what they've had to deal with before. As the bloke in the video quotes the police as saying, it was a 'Civil-war-like situation'. How are the police supposed to deal with that? But they'll have to learn and adapt quickly, I suppose.


People also seem to forget that the police is severly overworked and understaffed even on a REGULAR New Year's Eve.


Also why does public response seem to be virtually dominated by people who are either apologetic or people who go "boo all Moslims/refugee's bad"

Why can't people just only hate the people who did this and want them punished and thrown out of the country without punishing people who did nothing wrong?
The people who did this come from a culture in which their crimes are socially acceptable.

Politics are spilling into my game-specific subreddits again. Halp.

Apparently there was some kind of mass sexual assault incident where 1,000 men assaulted random women during the New Years celebration in Cologne; most of the perpetrators were described as "North African and Arab in appearance".

And media is attempting to cover it up, along with every popular news sub on reddit or something.
Yeah, /r/KotakuInAction has become more of a general media watchdog these days. Moderators of /r/news and /r/worldnews did also delete the initial news reports repeatedly, because reasons.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #11135 on: January 07, 2016, 03:33:46 pm »

It's already the kind of thing that's been happening to women in immigrant heavy areas. This is just the first time it happens to westerners in any kind of substantial amounts, so it's the first time society cares.
No, first time it all happened in one day in one place, lest we forget the UK or Sweden

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #11136 on: January 07, 2016, 05:43:51 pm »

Rape gangs really aren't fun.
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« Reply #11137 on: January 07, 2016, 06:28:56 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
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« Reply #11138 on: January 07, 2016, 06:30:09 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
#its2016

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« Reply #11139 on: January 07, 2016, 06:34:50 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
Y'know, I'd like a source for that. AFAIK most of the refugees in Germany do not in fact come from India.
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« Reply #11140 on: January 07, 2016, 06:35:49 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
#its2016
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Seriously though, it's unacceptable anywhere. It doesn't matter where you are, ganging up with the pals and going out for a tiddlywink o' the ole ultraviolence doesn't actually advance humanity. If you want to be of homosex with your friends, go work a field. Nurture some plants. Husband animals. Contribute to the ecosystem you're part of sapiently.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #11141 on: January 07, 2016, 06:39:00 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
Assuming it's an acceptable practice there, it's still terrible. Anybody with respect for somebody else would see the morality for that. So they shouldn't be doing it where they're from - even less so should they be doing it in a country where almost every single person thinks of them as the foul beasts that they are.
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« Reply #11142 on: January 07, 2016, 07:58:44 pm »

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
Assuming it's an acceptable practice there, it's still terrible. Anybody with respect for somebody else would see the morality for that. So they shouldn't be doing it where they're from - even less so should they be doing it in a country where almost every single person thinks of them as the foul beasts that they are.
Of course. The point is that not all cultures are equal, and it's folly to treat them as such.
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« Reply #11143 on: January 07, 2016, 08:10:20 pm »

Oy, Morrigi:

They're not. However, they are an acceptable practice in the places these people came from.
Y'know, I'd like a source for that. AFAIK most of the refugees in Germany do not in fact come from India.
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« Reply #11144 on: January 07, 2016, 08:15:23 pm »

Unsurprisingly (given the attacks they're facing) an internal police report has been leaked discussing the events at Cologne and the police response. Spiegel has an article on it here but there are better ones elsewhere - mostly in German, though.

Also many sources are now reporting that two young girls from Weil am Rhein, ages 14 and 15 (I've seen the older girl's age also being reported as 16 in certain sources) were raped multiple times by a group of Syrian refugees on New Year's Eve. 4 suspects are apparently on remand.
According to our Dutch newspapers, one of the perpetrators apparently was a 14 year old Syrian refugee from the Netherlands. He travelled to Germany to celebrate New Year with 3 other Syrians.
Those celebrations inculded the gang rape of two very minor girls, age 14 and 15, at the appartment of a 21 year old Syrian who had already gotten his asylum status granted in Germany, and who shared his appartment with his 15 year old brother, who is still in the procedure of applying for asylum. A fourth person was also arrested in the case, a 14 year old Syrian from Switzerland. It is not yet known what the relation between those boys/men is, whether they are all related, or just acquainted.

I'm sure the 3 minors will just get a reprimand, and no consequence for their asylum status. Our Child Protection Laws will make sure of that. The 21 year old guy will probably be airdropped back over Syria after spending a few years in a German prison with a 'pedofile' tattoo on his forehead though.
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