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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9345 on: February 07, 2015, 09:56:16 pm »

I feel that transphobes have the responsibility to come out to any prospective partner before anything gets serious. I mean, it's something that's potentially very important to the relationship, ya know?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9346 on: February 07, 2015, 10:39:23 pm »

I feel that transphobes have the responsibility to come out to any prospective partner before anything gets serious. I mean, it's something that's potentially very important to the relationship, ya know?

I feel like hardcore feminists should come out before anything gets serious. Potentially very important, right?
Muslims, too.
Atheists.
Democrats.
Republicans.
Hippies.
Pro-marijuana.
Buddhists.
etc.

The list (almost) goes on forever, that kind of argument can be made for almost anything. If you think it's important to tell your partner, then tell your partner. Personally, if I found out I'd been dating someone trans for a long while I'd go into massive shock, but I also (at least like to think) I'd get over it and be accepting after a small amount of time. That's me personally, however, different people react in different ways.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9347 on: February 08, 2015, 02:05:49 am »

I feel that transphobes have the responsibility to come out to any prospective partner before anything gets serious. I mean, it's something that's potentially very important to the relationship, ya know?

I feel like hardcore feminists should come out before anything gets serious. Potentially very important, right?
Muslims, too.
Atheists.
Democrats.
Republicans.
Hippies.
Pro-marijuana.
Buddhists.
etc.

The list (almost) goes on forever, that kind of argument can be made for almost anything. If you think it's important to tell your partner, then tell your partner. Personally, if I found out I'd been dating someone trans for a long while I'd go into massive shock, but I also (at least like to think) I'd get over it and be accepting after a small amount of time. That's me personally, however, different people react in different ways.

Just thought I'd let Bay12 know I'm a hardcore nose picker before we get into a too serious relationship.  I hope you are all as picky as I am.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9348 on: February 08, 2015, 02:21:16 am »

Just thought I'd let Bay12 know I'm a hardcore nose picker before we get into a too serious relationship.  I hope you are all as picky as I am.
Where does the hardcore part come in?
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9349 on: February 08, 2015, 02:23:01 am »

but think of the other person's heterosexuality D:

(i never really got this whole aversion to accidentally dating a transperson, are you afraid of catching the gay-virus or something?)
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9350 on: February 08, 2015, 02:31:08 am »

So, basically what we are saying is that in general, when dating, you should tell the other person the significant/important things about you and let them decide how they feel about you based on that?

Nice groundbreaking conclusion there guys and gals.

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9351 on: February 08, 2015, 02:36:25 am »

Personally I'm more concerned about how things are currently situated than how they used to be situated. Not that I'm terribly interested either way.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9352 on: February 08, 2015, 02:44:38 am »

(i never really got this whole aversion to accidentally dating a transperson, are you afraid of catching the gay-virus or something?)
There was a pretty big stigma to being gay in the media when I was growing up. It gets associated with 'bad'/'weird'/'unaccepted' young and then you learn that there are some women who are what you would consider a man that can be indistinguishable from what you would consider a woman.

Transitively if you date them you are 'gay'. gay=date*man, transwoman=man, date*transwoman=gay

The fear is even worse if you already doubt your masculinity or your 'straightness'. And if you recognize that as they can be indistinguishable from what you would consider a woman. You could be dating one and enjoying yourself without even knowing it. "You could be gay, doing gay things, and not even know it!"

That at least accounts for my problem with trans-blah when I was homophobic.
For non homophobes it is probably either beliefs/religion or feeling someone is invading your social group because they want to be a part of it and you/the group is defined by their absence.
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« Reply #9353 on: February 08, 2015, 06:12:11 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9354 on: February 08, 2015, 07:44:39 am »

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« Reply #9355 on: February 08, 2015, 08:00:13 am »

Honestly penguinofhonor that's pretty debatable & you'll find a fair few people who disagree with you on that.

Edit: Besides a relationship involves 2 people & there are plenty of people who feel the same way as aenri. Saying he's wrong to think that way wont change the fact that a person who feels that way & a trans person is never going to work out well in a relationship.
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« Reply #9356 on: February 08, 2015, 08:18:42 am »

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« Reply #9357 on: February 08, 2015, 08:19:56 am »

The thing is they don't repulse me. I'm more taking issue with the fact your saying your opinion is right & his opinion is wrong.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9358 on: February 08, 2015, 08:25:41 am »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #9359 on: February 08, 2015, 08:29:59 am »

But Penguin, you're also breaking the rules made by this this threads OP (even if that person is you), rule five specifically. That seems a bit hypocritical.
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