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[Bauglir]

Kansas Gay Segregation Bill.

Heyyyyy I AM NOT VERY CALM OR COOL RIGHT NOW

Huh I was feeling pretty good about this day and then nope. Holy shit, the mental gymnastics to pitch this garbage as anti-discrimination... Just. Wow. I thought such madness was only found in legend and folklore.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Well yea, I guess. Still, when religious schools decide that girls shouldn't be taught to read and write, and substitute their education for sewing and cooking don't even say I didn't warn you.

I'm sure plenty of the people behind this would agree with that sort of thing. After all:

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

[Darvi]

Technically, that would merely prohibit a female teacher from having a class that isn't all girls. *pointless pedantry*

[Max White]

Well yea, I guess. Still, when religious schools decide that girls shouldn't be taught to read and write, and substitute their education for sewing and cooking don't even say I didn't warn you.

I'm sure plenty of the people behind this would agree with that sort of thing. After all:

I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

Are you actually reading through 1 Timothy because that religious rapper in the video you linked kept quoting it? 

Anyway if there is one state in the US where it is legal, expect it to happen. The population is large enough that people who want to live a certain way can gang up and assume the critical number of people required. There is little doubt in my mind that enough people want to educate their children like that for it to happen.

Technically, that would merely prohibit a female teacher from having a class that isn't all girls. *pointless pedantry*

I guess they could interpret the "She must be quiet" line with a little more significance than that... I wonder if there is any legal precedent for challenging legal documents like this one as unconstitutional, what with separation of church and state and all that.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Are you actually reading through 1 Timothy because that religious rapper in the video you linked kept quoting it? 

No, just one verse among many I memorized between my time as a Christian and my experiences afterwards. I haven't actually read a Bible directly in several years now.

I wonder if there is any legal precedent for challenging legal documents like this one as unconstitutional, what with separation of church and state and all that.

There's plenty. For one thing, this fails the Lemon Test hard.

[Sheb]

Now, we need a Muslim saying this will finally allow him to stop serving women, and the bil will fold down.

More seriously, it sucks for all the people that'll be targeted by this bill between now and the striking down.

[smirk]

I wonder if there is any legal precedent for challenging legal documents like this one as unconstitutional, what with separation of church and state and all that.

There's plenty. For one thing, this fails the Lemon Test hard.

Aye. As blatant as this is, I can't think but that it'll eventually get dragged before the Supreme Court and stomped on. That'll take a while though, and in the meantime...

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It doesn't have to go all the way to SCOTUS to stop being enforced. It could be struck down without stay even by a state court and not be enacted between then and SCOTUS.

[smirk]

True; that'd be the likely route. I'm just being a pessimist.

[Max White]

Actually there might be one legal keyword that provides some cover that I missed on my first read through...

Provide any services, accommodations, advantages, facilities,
goods, or privileges; provide counseling, adoption, foster care and other
social services; or provide employment or employment benefits, related to,
or related to the celebration of, any marriage, domestic partnership, civil
union or similar arrangement;

So you an discriminate on the basis of any sort of relationship between two people (Meaning literally everybody with how vaguely it is worded, unless you live in a cave and never talk to anybody) but only if they are explicitly celebrating it? But then I don't see how things like adoption, foster care or employment would ever relate to any specific ceremony, so I expect this keyword to largely be ignored.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It or the celebration of it.

[Max White]

Right... Fucking legal documents!
It is interesting just how much effort they put into defining a religious organisation (And was sure to include businesses and all that good stuff) but literally none into 'similar arrangements'. I mean really, how similar is similar? Does it count if you live in the same house and provide financial support? Every shared rent house in the state is now a hotbed for homosexual sin!

[scriver]

I, High Priest Misantrope of the First Church of Grognard, hereby declare that we find all happy and unabuse relationships, between two persons or more, to be highly affrontical to our faith and religion.

[Darvi]

I, High Priest Misantrope of the First Church of Grognard, hereby declare that we find all happy and unabuse relationships, between two persons or more, to be highly affrontical to our faith and religion.

You misspelled my name :V

[Loud Whispers]

This lady just made a video about a proposed feminism 2.0.
Tl;dr, we Lysistrata now, and the video has managed to anger everyone. Is her proposition good, bad, or a mix of the two?