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[SalmonGod]

I am definitely on the "That's racist" side of things here. Jesus Christ, Europe.

It's more of a Dutch thing.

Heh... my wife lived in the Netherlands for a year, and I remember her telling me about Zwarte Piet.  It didn't seem racist to her, though.  More of an oddity.

[Leafsnail]

Though once again I think it is more about me being blissfully ignorant.

Yes.

[Dutchling]

This makes me thinks of celebrating Sinterklaas at school. Seeing your teacher all black and in those costumes is hilarious~

[Pnx]

I would have liked Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet more if they didn't give me nothing but ginger drops and mints when I went and did the begging by the river thing.

Frigging Dutch taste in sweets sucked the fun out of the racist holiday.

[Owlbread]

Why don't the Dutch make magical chocolate like the Belgians manage to? Even the Germans are good at it, the Swiss especially.

[Dutchling]

Why don't the Dutch make magical chocolate like the Belgians manage to? Even the Germans are good at it, the Swiss especially.

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[Pnx]

There was sometimes chocolate, but I seem to remember it being mainly hard and bitter stuff.

[Owlbread]

But Pnx was talking about the "Dutch taste in sweets".... oh I get it now, it's only ok if a DUTCH person says it. Yeah, it's just political correctness gone mad I tell you! Hang on, let me put down this copy of the Daily Mail so I can adjust the gusset of my Union Jack underpants.

[Dutchling]

But Pnx was talking about the "Dutch taste in sweets".... oh I get it now, it's only ok if a DUTCH person says it. Yeah, it's just political correctness gone mad I tell you.

I just wanted to post that gif here :v

[misko27]

...And in the US it causes race fights in a sufficiently diverse neighborhood. Even, and especially on Halloween. It's seen as a call-back to the time when they were seen as an oddity, weird, strange. "Darky" is the word Wikipedia reminds me of. "Them darkies" is the implied thought, and so people using blackface is a relic from that age where being black was a novelty in and of itself, and stereotypes was the primary interest in them.

To be entirely honest though, just the images on Wikipedia make me mad, and it freaks me out there are places outside of Alabama where it is seen as harmless fun (although you probably couldn't get away with it in Alabama, huge black population.) It's the product of a time over a hundred years ago in the US.

Why don't the Dutch make magical chocolate like the Belgians manage to? Even the Germans are good at it, the Swiss especially.

Err, lack of magic?

Why don't the Dutch make magical chocolate like the Belgians manage to? Even the Germans are good at it, the Swiss especially.

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Big difference between the assumed quality of physical exports of a country; and the assumed  stereotypes regarding a certain race. Simply put, it isn't racist that Germans make good cars because they do make a higher quality car due to large  high-end manufacturing industry.

If I wanted to be racist, I'd confuse the Dutch with the Deutsche, and the Swiss with the Swedes. And Yodeling would be involved, and Lederhosen prominent.

[Owlbread]

I'm sure my grandmother had a dog called "darkie" and a cat called "blackie". The word "darkie" is still quite popular in the UK among certain people but it's nearly always tongue in cheek.

Big difference between the assumed quality of physical exports of a country; and the assumed  stereotypes regarding a certain race. Simply put, it isn't racist that Germans make good cars because they do make a higher quality car due to large  high-end manufacturing industry.

If I wanted to be racist, I'd confuse the Dutch with the Deutsche, and the Swiss with the Swedes. And Yodeling would be involved, and Lederhosen prominent.

Though many say that the Dutch and the Germans are not "races", they are nationalities/ethnicities. You know, I recall having a debate with somebody a few months ago who rather distinctly implied that "Scots" (a generalisation) want to "kick the English out" of this country as soon as we get the chance. Quite straight-faced too, we were debating nationalism and such at the time. In retrospect I don't really consider that racist, he just wasn't thinking at the time I presume.

[Dutchling]

Okay, before people are going to believe I actually think there is something like a Dutch master race which just happens to be bad at making chocolate: I don't.

[misko27]

...there is something like a Dutch master race which just happens to be bad at making chocolate...

This is how Politicians get disgraced.

[Owlbread]

Riddle me this, is it the Walloon or Flemish part of Belgium that makes such good chocolate?

[Dutchling]

Riddle me this, is it the Walloon or Flemish part of Belgium that makes such good chocolate?

I am going to assume it's the Flemish because they are closer to the DMR.