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Author Topic: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread  (Read 1287215 times)

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6090 on: June 21, 2013, 07:37:37 pm »

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6091 on: June 21, 2013, 08:07:13 pm »

Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/
I freaking called it. EVERYONE freaking called it. Everything is terrorism. Nothing is too sacred to be killed in the war against terrorism. Everything is terrorism.

That sounds like terrorist talk there....
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6092 on: June 21, 2013, 09:25:26 pm »

Yes, My avatar is a cat-thulhu. Trueans is a hat and scarf cat.

Nadaka's cat-thulhu appears more devious, but Mittens is "looking" innocently cute while covering her tracks and being far worse.

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-enron-ceo-skillings-prison-193328040.html

What? That's just perfect.... Enron.... The absolute poster-child for corruption and just....  :(
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6093 on: June 22, 2013, 02:18:59 am »

Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/

I am going to go cry silent manly tears for what was once a beautiful nation. Just like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGu4AwL5Kho

Man, check on their complaints.

Free speech has always had a limit, you can't yell 'fire!' in a crowded movie theater as lame as that example is. You can't scream about the water supply being lethal if it actually isn't.

The tap water is fine. The fluoride keeps your teeth from developing cavities and your enamel intact and also helps guard your mind against communist influence.

Creating a panic over nothing can obviously be destructive.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6094 on: June 22, 2013, 03:05:42 am »

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-enron-ceo-skillings-prison-193328040.html

What? That's just perfect.... Enron.... The absolute poster-child for corruption and just....  :(
Don't forget this bit:
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6095 on: June 22, 2013, 12:21:03 pm »

Petitioning the government for a redress of your grievances is now terrorism

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/21/official-says-water-complaints-act-of-terrorism/2445071/

I am going to go cry silent manly tears for what was once a beautiful nation. Just like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGu4AwL5Kho

Man, check on their complaints.

Free speech has always had a limit, you can't yell 'fire!' in a crowded movie theater as lame as that example is. You can't scream about the water supply being lethal if it actually isn't.

The tap water is fine. The fluoride keeps your teeth from developing cavities and your enamel intact and also helps guard your mind against communist influence.

Creating a panic over nothing can obviously be destructive.
Yeah, but it isn't terrorism. That's the problem here; a politician/public official labeling everything presumably bad under terrorism, much like everything presumably bad was labeled communism in years past.

Whether the complaints were valid or not isn't relevant. The problem is they were calling complains terrorism :P
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6096 on: June 22, 2013, 12:26:39 pm »

Free speech has always had a limit
No it doesn't.

you can't yell 'fire!' in a crowded movie theater as lame as that example is.
And then the boy who cried wolf was declared a terrorist to the state and summarily executed with hellfire missiles, instead of suffering the inherent ingrained social consequences.

You can't scream about the water supply being lethal if it actually isn't.
[There have been documented cases of American tap water setting on fire].

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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6097 on: June 22, 2013, 12:35:01 pm »

But it's not lethal unless you fall down dead within eight minutes!
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6098 on: June 22, 2013, 12:57:45 pm »

There have been documented cases of American tap water setting on fire.

That had something to do with fracking didn't it? Something about the gas leaking into the water reserves. There was some big kerfuffle about it some year ago.

Shit why don't I just google it.

EDIT: Yup Obviously a propaganda piece against fracking so take it with a grain of salt but I know it was all over the news some time ago.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6099 on: June 22, 2013, 01:25:07 pm »

There's been some attempts to do fracking around here where we live... in order to do that they need to get the residents agree (they've attempted to offer pretty crappy compensation), to get people to agree they've sent out a bunch of pamphlets and letters, and... well frankly they claim that they only use sand and saltwater to do the fracking, and that it presents no danger to the environment, or groundwater...

These are blatent lies.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6100 on: June 22, 2013, 01:30:04 pm »

Okay, if terrorism is defined as committing a violent act in order to cause fear, then domestic abuse, armed robbery, direct police intervention during protests, any excessive force by law enforcement, "shock and awe" tactics used by the military, "enhanced interrogation", etc. etc. all qualify as terrorism. This is really a double-edged sword. The government cannot widen the definition of terrorism without becoming terrorists themselves.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6101 on: June 22, 2013, 01:34:00 pm »

There have been documented cases of American tap water setting on fire.

That had something to do with fracking didn't it? Something about the gas leaking into the water reserves. There was some big kerfuffle about it some year ago.

Shit why don't I just google it.

EDIT: Yup Obviously a propaganda piece against fracking so take it with a grain of salt but I know it was all over the news some time ago.
As it turned out, that case nothing to do with fracking. He just had a poorly built well into which methane was seeping. There have been studies linking fracking to increased methane in wells, but the only actual risk from it is methane building up in the somewhere air after being released from the water; which is mostly just an issue of ventilation.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6102 on: June 22, 2013, 01:42:50 pm »

There have been documented cases of American tap water setting on fire.

That had something to do with fracking didn't it? Something about the gas leaking into the water reserves. There was some big kerfuffle about it some year ago.

Shit why don't I just google it.

EDIT: Yup Obviously a propaganda piece against fracking so take it with a grain of salt but I know it was all over the news some time ago.

Not propaganda... The well water at my fathers fathers farm in Minnesota was flammable for decades.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6103 on: June 22, 2013, 02:27:40 pm »

There have been documented cases of American tap water setting on fire.

That had something to do with fracking didn't it? Something about the gas leaking into the water reserves. There was some big kerfuffle about it some year ago.

Shit why don't I just google it.

EDIT: Yup Obviously a propaganda piece against fracking so take it with a grain of salt but I know it was all over the news some time ago.

Not propaganda... The well water at my fathers fathers farm in Minnesota was flammable for decades.
Just because it's true doesn't mean it's not propaganda.
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Re: Calm and Cool Progressive Discussion Thread
« Reply #6104 on: June 22, 2013, 03:58:13 pm »

Free speech has always had a limit
No it doesn't.
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