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[GlyphGryph]

Bah! Then why didn't you say that when someone misinterpreted it, instead of defending it! Argh. I can never ever follow disagreements here. -__-

[Darvi]

I somehow get the feeling that most disagreements here are caused by both sides actually not being serious about what they're saying and just continuing for the hell of it.

[GlyphGryph]

God damn it, I KNOW someone got serious at some point! (other than me.)

[darkrider2]

I somehow get the feeling that most disagreements here are caused by both sides actually not being serious about what they're saying and just continuing for the hell of it.

So basically Poe's Law in overdrive?

Somehow... I'm fine with that.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

God damn it, I KNOW someone got serious at some point! (other than me.)

It's Pathos all the way down, I'm afraid.

[Criptfeind]

This statement can therefore not be wrong, but is also completely meaningless.

It's not really meaningless. Not so long as people use things that don't work and pretend that they do work.

[Leafsnail]

Well there are two possibilities I can see, both admittedly rather rare:
- There are several rare curable diseases, but aren't properly treated due to the expense of treatment. The medicine isn't in demand enough to mass produce it. I see these brought up every once in a while as a criticism for profit based healthcare.
- It doesn't seem to far fetched to me to come up with alternative treatments that are effective, but not as effective, that are pushed aside as completely irrelevant because they can't be monetized as well. I'm pretty sure most doctors would push the most effective treatments unless they're prohibitively expensive, but lesser ones that a cheaper might be ignored. This is conjecture on my part, so could very well be wrong.

These points do make sense, but neither case would generally involve alternative medicine as far as I can tell.  The first case is a nasty dilemma about how much money you're prepared to pay per person (ultimately you have to set a limit, unfortunately).  I can imagine something like the second case arising through patents (big pharma pushing their own patented drugs over the cheaper "generic" drugs they no longer hold the patent on) but that case only really works if both drugs have already been shown to work.

It's also something that should be addressed in Ben Goldacre's new book, which I need to get a hold of and read as soon as possible.

[penguinofhonor]

I somehow get the feeling that most disagreements here are caused by both sides actually not being serious about what they're saying and just continuing for the hell of it.

So basically Poe's Law in overdrive?

Somehow... I'm fine with that.

Devil's Advocateception?

[Descan]

It's like saying you can't respect someone liking a movie that you don't.

No, it's like saying you can respect someone but not respect their tastes in movies.

[Moghjubar]

Here, have something else to talk about: Israel lobbyist suggesting false flag attacks to get US to war with Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84l19H68mk

[Mlamlah]

I think Occupy Wall Street is, in no small part, the average person having stopped, looked at what's going on... and going up in arms.

This.

[Pnx]

Here, have something else to talk about: Israel lobbyist suggesting false flag attacks to get US to war with Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M84l19H68mk

Ok, I get that Israel is surrounded by countries that hate it and have tried to snuff it out from pretty much the day it was created, but the attitudes it has are really not helping, and it's really going to get itself into big trouble one of these days.

[alway]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/26/14115231-us-documents-reportedly-refer-to-assange-wikileaks-as-enemy?lite

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The thing about the US having no mandated paid vacation time, sick leave, or maternity leave has come up again.

[Levi]

The thing about the US having no mandated paid vacation time, sick leave, or maternity leave has come up again.

Really?  That must suck.