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[MonkeyHead]

If an arrest were made, and the system did its thing and it turns out that actually there was a just cause for Zimmerman's actions, then fair enough. But for the state to apparently dismiss it and for there to be material that appears to be evidence suggesting his actions were illegal circulating in the worlds media just smacks of something wrong.

[Truean]

Whole thing is just sad.

[RedKing]

I remember when they passed this law, cause we were heading down to Disney World a month or so after that. Perusing the text of the law, I surmised it was basically "You are entitled to shoot first if threatened, or if you feel threatened. No questions asked."

So once we got down to Kissimmee, I stayed in the condo as much as possible, and when we went out, I didn't so much as make eye-contact with anybody. Fuck that noise, I'm not going to get shot because Bubba thinks I was giving him the stink-eye.

[Truean]

I remember when they passed this law, cause we were heading down to Disney World a month or so after that. Perusing the text of the law, I surmised it was basically "You are entitled to shoot first if threatened, or if you feel threatened. No questions asked."

So once we got down to Kissimmee, I stayed in the condo as much as possible, and when we went out, I didn't so much as make eye-contact with anybody. Fuck that noise, I'm not going to get shot because Bubba thinks I was giving him the stink-eye.

Legalese trying at justifying murder? Like I said, whole thing is just sad.


Edit 1:
http://news.yahoo.com/facebook-warns-employers-dont-ask-passwords-163806953.html

What did I say? Violates terms of service....
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Edit 2:

http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/article/2012/03/23/wisconsin-lawmaker-you-are-being-beaten-just-remember-things-you-love-about-your

So I don't know what to think about this.... "Instead of leaving an abusive situation, women should try to remember the things they love about their husbands," Representative Don Pridemore said. "If they can re-find those reasons and get back to why they got married in the first place it might help," he told a local news station.



So let me see if I have this right. Ladies, if your man is beating you, remember why you fell in love with him. That'll help.... Your esteemed state senator says so.... Same one who passed a law making them consider being a single mom a factor in child abuse.... I don't get what this guy is going for. Is he joking? Please say he's joking, and even then it isn't funny.

[FearfulJesuit]

I am still waiting for those feminazis the Republicans think are hiding around every corner to come out of the woodwork and do a number on these bastards.

[Truean]

I am still waiting for those feminazis the Republicans think are hiding around every corner to come out of the woodwork and do a number on these bastards.

Not sure how to respond to that, but yeah, the demonization doesn't seem to be holding up to reality. How dare females want equal rights....

Ladies and gentlemen, the Amish are running amok, again.

Yet more proof that "traditional" or "conservative" values do not equate to "social stability...." Moreover, I can't believe I'm seriously quoting but, "So if I understand correctly, they are claiming Amish-on-Amish violence simply cannot be a hate crime." Yes, that's a legal argument....

It's the heart of progressiveness v. stagnation. Standing still doesn't mean you won't lose. It's the Red Queen's Riddle.

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Relevant....

[penguinofhonor]

That picture is too huge to not be spoilered.

[kaijyuu]

Your monitor and/or resolution is too small!



In serious, aren't drones that go over civilian areas (for surveillance and the like) unarmed?

EDIT: I should clarify, civilian areas on US soil. Civilians getting shot elsewhere by them I know isn't totally uncommon.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

In serious, aren't drones that go over civilian areas (for surveillance and the like) unarmed?

For now.

[Truean]

That picture is too huge to not be spoilered.

K

In serious, aren't drones that go over civilian areas (for surveillance and the like) unarmed?

For now.

Until they start loading them, yes. The USA, land of the free and home of the brave, a scared police state that can kill anyone, anytime anywhere.

[kaijyuu]

Got a reason to believe they will be later?

[Urist Imiknorris]

Because TERRISTS ATTACKING ARE FREEDOMS, of course.

[Truean]

Got a reason to believe they will be later?

http://www.loweringthebar.net/2012/03/ag-sort-of-explains-when-and-why-the-president-could-drop-a-bomb-on-you.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinunderhill/2011/12/07/you-say-indefinite-military-detention-of-citizens-like-its-a-bad-thing/

If the government thinks you are a "terrorist," (an undefined term) based on "evidence" no one can see or question, then without any real due process, they can kill you, according to the Attorney General of the United States. But, don't worry, they won't abuse this power, they promise.... They also don't need checks and balances to make sure of that, scout's honor...? Pinkie swear?

This is not good.

[kaijyuu]

I'm trying to see how you're not using a slippery slope fallacy, so pointing to non-drone related things isn't helping.

Closest to relevant that I found was this, linked from the first humor article you linked:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinunderhill/2012/03/05/attorney-general-explains-why-its-okay-to-kill-u-s-citizens-without-a-trial/

It specifies "in a foreign country." So I don't see any evidence of drones killing US citizens on US soil anytime soon. Outside, maybe. Under weak suspicions, sure. But not with the drones we're talking about.

[penguinofhonor]

I mean, we've been using armed drones in the middle east, so we have the capability to. I'm not sure if that's going to lead to it. All it could take would be some McCarthyism, sure, but we're a little more protective of our own people than the brown ones over there (i.e. the whole "it's not okay to hold US citizens without trial" yet finding no problem with holding non-citizens).