Wow.... The rails are way off over there and the train has derailed....
1.) You said,
"I'm not sure about the false advertising for either heroin and cigarettes. You're getting what you pay for and you'd have to be living under a rock not to know that these things are addictive before you try them. It's not like a dealer can make his/her own reality.."(Let's just gloss over the heroin comment....)I showed you false advertising, and people being told it wasn't bad for them (doctors endorsing cigarettes) by dealers paying billions to make their own reality.... That is exactly what big tobacco did, and they did it at kids with cartoon mascots, because:
2.)
"Very few people have needles forced into their arms, and they're usually doing it on the say-so of a friend not a dealer. People who become junkies aren't living in a vacuum, they almost certainly already know other junkies and can see the effects."There absolutely were/are massive tobacco companies specifically targeting children with cartoons, and I showed that to you. I showed you those same companies misleading adults and obscuring their information/altering their choices. There are
dealers pushers who do this more directly at schools, and yes, literally or all but literally force kids to do drugs. They may or may not beat you up, but they will do everything they can to push their "product." This has nothing to do with emotion; I've seen it. It happens, more than you'd think.
3.) The rest of it seems to be trying to make some kind of comparisons to off topic subjects for some reason that escapes me,
"There are e.g. professional people who do this. And when you think about it, that's obvious." For every Charlie Sheen or rock star, there are hundreds if not thousands of addicts. Even if you latch onto the idea that "this isn't 100%," old Charlie isn't doing too well, because he got booted right out of his show.
Mr Sheen made $1.25 Million Dollars per episode of "Two and Half Men," which he lost when he got booted off. He did 178 episodes before being shown the door. Mr. Ashton Kutcher replaced him for 84 episodes... Let's see.... $1.25 Million times 84 episodes.... That's about $105 Million Dollars Charlie Sheen lost to his drug habit and excesses therefrom.
Maybe Mr Sheen doesn't "have to have that money to survive," but I bet you he could find a use for it....
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Reelya, I don't know why you're so upset. I don't know why you're comparing me to
"bible-thumping America," when I'm gay and they absolutely hate my guts for it/I have nothing to do with them. I don't know why you seem to be choosing to interpret my words in the worst way possible. There was no "appeal to emotion" or "think of the children" in my statements. Those are all facts and directly addressed your points.
The point I was making is that addiction is deceptive, hence the false advertising, and the "illusion of filling a need, but actually making it much much worse. I have no idea what you're driving at or who you think you're trying to convince of what here, man. I don't know if you seem to be blaming users themselves for their predicament as if there were no outside factors, or what, but it seems that way.
Regardless, yeah, this isn't a fun or acceptable way to have a conversation. There's no "winning," and the idea that there ever could be is just kinda... odd? Again, you seem very upset. I recommend you take a small break, gather yourself and come back then. I hope you feel better soon.