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Author Topic: Can anybody who speaks Chinese/any character based or tonal language help me out  (Read 5669 times)

Mr. Palau

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hey does anyone have a list of, or knows by heart, body parts in mandarin I have a quiz tommorw and although I know the characters, I have forgot many of the body parts which my teacher assures me will be on the test(not advanced enough in mandarin to type this, sry).
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I already knew those.  Test is already over though, didn't do well. Not because I had forgotten the body parts but because I had forgotten the verb complements like 完 and other's whose character’s I have forgotten. Not surprising considering I don't remember the words. Thank you for trying to help though, it is much appreciated   :) .
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Hey me again. Does anyone know an easier way to memorize characters than just writing them a bunch of times? or how to memorize them effectively while doing that?
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Hey me again. Does anyone know an easier way to memorize characters than just writing them a bunch of times? or how to memorize them effectively while doing that?

This and this

Writing characters a bunch of times in a row doesn't really help at all unless you are practicing handwriting.  I learned around 2000 using these methods in only a couple of weeks.

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Hey me again. Does anyone know an easier way to memorize characters than just writing them a bunch of times? or how to memorize them effectively while doing that?

This and this

Writing characters a bunch of times in a row doesn't really help at all unless you are practicing handwriting.  I learned around 2000 using these methods in only a couple of weeks.

I take it Anki will work for simplified chinese, but does anyone know of anyway book like that for simplified chinese characters?
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Hey me again. Does anyone know an easier way to memorize characters than just writing them a bunch of times? or how to memorize them effectively while doing that?

This and this

Writing characters a bunch of times in a row doesn't really help at all unless you are practicing handwriting.  I learned around 2000 using these methods in only a couple of weeks.

I take it Anki will work for simplified chinese, but does anyone know of anyway book like that for simplified chinese characters?
Yeah, there's a simplified version too

A sample

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Thank you, I  hope this helps.
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Well, my language is character based - 안녕하십니까!
In ancient times, it also used to be tonal (but not now.)

It also does Chinese characters - 來日

...But I'm pretty sure you don't need it.

>.>

As for the hanjaChinese character roguelike, that sounds like an awesome way to do stuff. Chances are, though, you'll have to use a graphic based game like DF, which pretends to be ASCII but actually uses tiles...
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Well, my language is character based - 안녕하십니까!
In ancient times, it also used to be tonal (but not now.)

It also does Chinese characters - 來日

...But I'm pretty sure you don't need it.

>.>

As for the hanjaChinese character roguelike, that sounds like an awesome way to do stuff. Chances are, though, you'll have to use a graphic based game like DF, which pretends to be ASCII but actually uses tiles...

That's Korean isn't it? (I think it is because I rember Korean as being like a cross of the flowy nature of Japanese characters and the boxy nature of simplified chinse characters) What is the Korean character system called again?
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Just in case you meet any fanatic Koreans, I want to say that if you say Korean is like a cross of Japanese and Chinese, they'll go rage on you ... sometimes with broken english that's funny to read. :P

 The truth is, though, both Chinese and Korean are derived from this script called 'Phags-pa script, according to our unreliable friend Wikipedia, and Japanese is derived from Chinese.

It's called Hangul, which literally translates into 'Korea's writing [system]'.

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Just in case you meet any fanatic Koreans, I want to say that if you say Korean is like a cross of Japanese and Chinese, they'll go rage on you ... sometimes with broken english that's funny to read. :P

 The truth is, though, both Chinese and Korean are derived from this script called 'Phags-pa script, according to our unreliable friend Wikipedia, and Japanese is derived from Chinese.

It's called Hangul, which literally translates into 'Korea's writing [system]'.

"Hangul" is an invented script from at least a few hundred years ago as a reaction against Chinese-style writing in Korean. It doesn't function terribly much like Chinese writing, which doesn't function that much like (most) Japanese writing.

Obviously any natural language (and even constructed things like Hangul) have their origins in earlier languages/scripts, but that's a bit self-evident, I'd think.
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I know that ^^ Infact, I know that it was invented around the 15th century, because they teached that in school. I also know that Chinese is a language that has meanings to characters. Korean has characters represent sounds. Korean was invented because the nobility's monopolyzation of language was not good for the nation as a whole.
The point is that Korean's letters, not the actual structure, came from the same roots as Chinese, which (fake edit) I notice you addressed in your last paragraph >.>

Analogy- Monkeys an humans. They have a common ancestor, but are not related.
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Just in case you meet any fanatic Koreans, I want to say that if you say Korean is like a cross of Japanese and Chinese, they'll go rage on you ... sometimes with broken english that's funny to read. :P

 The truth is, though, both Chinese and Korean are derived from this script called 'Phags-pa script, according to our unreliable friend Wikipedia, and Japanese is derived from Chinese.

It's called Hangul, which literally translates into 'Korea's writing [system]'.
I wouldn't really even consider Hangul similar to Chinese at all.  They look completely different to me, and based on my understanding, are constructed using completely different principles. I've always been somewhat interested in learning Korean, but I don't like the asthetics of the language. It's nothing personal, and for the record I don't really think English is all that pretty either.  Just a superficial preference.

Regarding Japanese being derived from Chinese, that's half true.  Japan basically grafted the Chinese writing system to their spoken language.  Gradually, some characters began being used only for their readings and were simplified.  That's where they got 平仮名 and 片仮名 from. 

Oddly enough, I'm told that Korean and Japanese Grammar are nearly identical. 
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