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Wait for the next release. I want usable mugs damn it!

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We can use the current one. I like the big trees and slightly smarter dorfs.

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I'll take .34.11 thanks. I want to know I'll get to kill things for sure.

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[Talvieno]

I've breached hell a few different times. lol   I encountered it relatively early on - without spoilers from the community.

Spoiler: Offtopic story about my first encounter with HFS (click to show/hide)

As I taught myself how to play through trial and error, I'd never heard of adamantine or demons or HFS until I unexpectedly encountered it. It was in my first successful fort - got it all the way to year seven, the king came, I was happy. Huge place, defended by moats, ballistae, pump systems - I went overboard with everything (defense has always been one of my favorite parts of the game) and oversized it to the point that half my fort was basically the entrance. I got 200 dwarves, and was pretty pleased with myself. Framerate sucked like anything, though... But anyway.

I had dug very, very deep... Still hadn't encountered magma in any of my games, so I didn't know it existed. The map was deep - roughly around 175 z-levels. But then around z-level 50, I found it... My first pillar of adamantine. I mined out the first layer and was awed at how much it was worth, set dwarves about extracting strands from it. Then I looked on the wiki... The first part was all "no spoilers, this is what it does". Then there was a major spoiler section... I hate spoilers. I didn't read it. I went back and mined out all I could upwards until it ended... Then I went back and mined down.

Just 5 z-levels down I hit the clown car. It was a relatively small number of demons, but I wasn't ready for it. The central staircase connected directly to the level I'd found the spire, and it was a matter of seconds before I had 40+ demons ransacking the main area of my fort, breathing fire. I panicked, of course... lol    My single legendary spearwoman (gained in battle/training, didn't know about danger rooms) managed to kill just one of them, her 50th or so kill - and then she melted. It was only minutes before my fort was down to the last survivor - a hunter outside the fortress walls. I considered savescumming, but I felt it'd come to a fitting end, and I left it as it was until everyone was dead.

HFS is fun. lol

After the first encounter, I've always kind of wanted revenge on them... Second time was a near-miserable failure, 100+ webber/fire demons in a 13 year old fort (the max is NOT 80). Third time I almost made it - only 50 demons against a fortress of dwarves who had all been trained in combat. Unfortunately, a goblin siege showed up at the same time and rushed into my fortress. Didn't have any dwarves to pull the levers and they got in. Attacked from two sides, everyone fell. These demons didn't breathe fire or webs - I would've won if it hadn't been for the goblins. Fourth time was the result of a cave-in. >.> Whoops. Obviously wasn't ready.



Just make sure the gates are closed before you begin, Mitch. lol   If you're going to release them. Oh, and no, fortifications don't work. They won't path to them because they can't path around them. However... Demons tend to stop at any doors they can find to pull them down, even if there are dwarves nearby. You might be able to use this to your advantage.

I never tried the checkerboard, ThatAussieGuy - always wanted to do it "legit", with pure dwarf power.

Talvieno's basically the reactions guy out of the three of us

I do creatures, too, Splint. lol   I did 30+ for the corpse fortress mod I'm working on on and off, and I did the scythods and manamaids too. Though I will admit, Mr Frog's creatures tend to be better than mine.

I have no godly idea how to make grave titans grow to proper size, and quite frankly I wish i could set it so adult Grave Titans were a rare encounter.

[BODY_SIZE:(insert adult year here):(insert days into adult year here):(insert desired body size at this age)]
[FREQUENCY:5] (will make them rarer to come across)
[POPULATION_NUMBER:5:10] (will make far fewer total to come across - killing 5 to 10 means no more grave titans, if I understand right)
[CLUSTER_NUMBER:(min):(max)] (number of creatures to appear in spawned group)
That should do it for you.

Spearbreakers II would be absolute madness, Sus. I'm kind of scared of it. Radioactivity by itself is a complete game-changer. You have to sort out the fast dwarves from the slow ones, the dizzy ones can't be warriors, the strong ones make better warriors, the biggest mutants can wield larger human weapons, the ones oozing blood tend to die eventually... It's wild. Swelling makes them bleed, too, if it's severe enough, though it doesn't mention that in the wiki... Honestly I think I'm almost against radioactivity being used in a Spearbreakers sequel. I like the idea of the new weapons and creatures, though.

And Aseaheru: I have a habit of making long posts.

[ThatAussieGuy]

I never tried the checkerboard, ThatAussieGuy - always wanted to do it "legit", with pure dwarf power.

I get that.  I just suggested it as a quick and easy way to toss a pick at the floor and see first-hand what happens when a spire is breached without having to set up a fort, make it's food supply stable, etc, before digging down in search of !!Fun!!

[Splint]

Sythod invaders from the stars....
Manamaids from the deep....
Barbarians from across the seas....
Massive malfunctioning automatons.....
Megaspawn......

[Hanslanda]

Sounds fun, get the spears urist.

[Mr Frog]

@Talvieno:

I've been modding creatures pretty extensively since 40d. I just sort of innately know how to engineer what I want by this point :p


@Splint:

Maybe, once Spearbreakers I goes to pot and it's time for a sequel, we should have a sort of 'Modder's Potluck' beforehand where a bunch of people put up {a} mod{s} to be used in the game while signing up for a turn

(The final word on whether a mod would be used would still come from you, of course.)

[Splint]

If that's the case, then perhaps you should do the Grave Titans yourself. I can't make heads or tails of this mess and I've had help from Talvieno and the creatures guy on another mod. They helped me understanbd crap a little better, but.... I'd rather stick to making weapons, armor, and whatnot. Anything that doesn't shoot I can do.

And I like the idea. Might do away with the radiation deal and go with whatever happens to be offered up prior to the game.

And if ytou're up to the grave titans, I'll give you a rundown of what they need in a PM.

[Mr Frog]

Well, the radiation is cool (Talvieno's random generator is brilliant). Adds a bit more strategy to the game -- and I'm not just saying that because it was me who came up with the initial concept, got it? :p

PM me with the details on gravies and I'll see what I can do.

Spoiler: Explanations for people who are completely lost (click to show/hide)

Radiation: A custom regional interaction I made that afflicts creatures in affected regions with various mutations. Talvieno later wrote a script that automatically generates a list of random symptom sets.

Scythod: Vaguely-arthropodal alien from a mod me and Talvieno were working on. Was originally supposed to have testicle-eyes, but you'll be pleased to know that I veto'd it. Talvieno made this one; there's another one that I made. That one doesn't have testicle-eyes either.

Manamaids: Burlesque-dancing manatees in lingerie. More of a cautionary tale showing what happens when a brainstorming session is allowed to go on past 3am.

Serrated Disc Launcher: A WMD created to satisfy Splint's lust for severed body parts. In other words, exactly what it sounds like.

Automatons: No idea.

[OverlordTNT]

WUT

Um, manamaids?

Also,

Diary of Black Sankis

By the hells, my spawn are effective. I keep finding packs  of them near spearbreakers , possessing the leader, and, ahem, redirecting them.
Also, i have ordered them to look for individuals by the name of Sankis. There were sankis's at Syrupleaf and Headshoots, so their might be some here. I want to know how the family is doing!

[Splint]

Manamaids can make you pass out and bleed from your eyes simultaniously. That's thier power, "Bust a sexy move!"

And I really have no way to adeqautly describe just how godawful to look at they are in general....

[Terrahex]

Sorry guys, but griefers hacked my minecraft server and messed everything up, including backups. I'm kinda depressed so you'll have to wait a bit for my next entry.

[Niccolo]

Maybe, once Spearbreakers I goes to pot and it's time for a sequel, we should have a sort of 'Modder's Potluck' beforehand where a bunch of people put up {a} mod{s} to be used in the game while signing up for a turn

I hope that's not going to be a pre-requisite... about the only mod I know how to make is attaching wings to things that shouldn't have wings. And since it loks like this fortress will burn in the fires of creation Armok before my turn, I'mma going to jump straight on over to the Spearbreakers II one.

As it turns out, giving badgers wings is a bad idea.

I guess I could learn how to mod. I mean, I've made mods for Oblivion... how hard can this game be? Would you want the mods to be sorta post-apocalyptic flavoured? That's what you sem to be going for... It smacks of Fallout.

I wonder... Hmm. This calls for investigation.

Also? Year two is a bitch to write a poem about.

[Mr Frog]

I seriously doubt submitting a mod would be mandatory. From what I know about how people work, that'll just result in a buttload of half-assed submissions just so that the submitter can get a turn.

[Corai]

I seriously doubt submitting a mod would be mandatory. From what I know about how people work, that'll just result in a buttload of half-assed submissions just so that the submitter can get a turn.

"Whats your mod?"

"Flying badgers the size of giant whales that shoot fire."

"Ya know Mr Frog, I think that you were right..."

[Splint]

The automaton idea is called a MR FROG. Imagine liberty prime without ranged weapons, and you got it. The name refers to both Mr Frog here, one of two head modders on this clusterfuck, and is a reference to the Mr. Gutsy/Handy robots. Basically the result of a guardian suffering a programming error, causing it to percieve everything that moves as either spawn or goblins. It can however be killed if its main proccessor is damaged.

And no, the mods wouldn't be a requirment, but if the player wants to contribute, they can.

And badgers with wings.... make'em breathe fire, and be common animals and trainable. War Dragon-badgers!

[Mr Frog]

Corai, I don't know what you've been smoking, but the way I see it, giant fire-breathing badgerdragons are frickin' awesome.

I was thinking more something completely stupid and inane, like "Here is my Chubby Helmets, they are like plump helmets but coloured red". Or some barely-functioning piece of crap that doesn't work right and clogs the errorlog with 5KB of reports every time you load the file (I imagine documenting the modders' screw-ups will be a form of entertainment in and of itself).