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[Argelle]

Tips for an Effective Hospital

Regularly use (i-H) to examine your hospital stockpile. Ensure your hospital is well-stocked. If you run out of materials regularly, increase the limits.

Without coffers or bags or containers in the hospital's zone, but still nice stockpiles, the (i)->(H) hospital information is empty, isn't it? (I tried for example a bucket stockpile near the zone, and also within the zone: in both cases it shows 0 buckets) But it's not a problem, since nurses and doctors will use them, no?

[XXSockXX]

You don't really need containers or stockpiles near the hospital. The dwarfs will take the stuff they need if it is stored in your normal stockpile. I think they sometimes use a crutch from the finished goods pile instead of one from the hospital, so containers are just reducing hauling a bit in most cases.
These tips from the wiki are not all that helpful, I never use dedicated nurses and doctors and the CMD is only there to enable the health screen. If enough dwarfs have the medical jobs enabled you should be fine.

[greycat]

These tips from the wiki are not all that helpful, I never use dedicated nurses and doctors and the CMD is only there to enable the health screen. If enough dwarfs have the medical jobs enabled you should be fine.

If a wiki page is wrong, please fix it, or at least tell us which page it is....

[Argelle]

As I understand it, wiki is fine concerning the hospital but for the bugs: it explains how it should be (or how it will be soon). May be it's the paragraph at the end which list the bugs and how it affect the hospital that could be expanded?

[XXSockXX]

I was not saying that the wiki was wrong, just that you can do things in different ways than suggested there. For example I don't use specialized nurses and it works for me to leave "recover wounded" and "feed prisoner" enabled on everyone, as it is by default. I'm not saying specialized nurses do not work, but you don't have to have them.

The tips on hospital section has been changed by someone, it's much better now.

The question was wether it was strictly necessary to have containers in the hospital and my answer is: it may help but is not strictly necessary.

[Sutremaine]

I changed that. You can probably get the older version through the history, but before it said the the CMD was needed for diagnosis and that treatment on a dwarf wouldn't start unless the CMD diagnosed said dwarf.

[weenog]

You don't need nurses, but it can work pretty well to combine a nursing team with an army reserve squad and get combat medics.  You'll probably want them to be crossbow users so they remain proactive about defending themselves even when the squad is inactive.  Though axedwarves carrying booze rations give you a nice civil war era doctor feel.

[San-A]

I have started a new fortress in a volcano, near of a necro tower. I built that giant magma trap and I was really excited about doing some nice zombie BBQ.

Then I discovered they can't be killed with magma *facepalm* Why? Is that on purpose or is it a bug? Or simply not implemented yet?

[Trif]

It's reported as bug 0005511.
I don't know what Toady thinks about it, though.

[San-A]

It's reported as bug 0005511.
I don't know what Toady thinks about it, though.

Cheers 

[vjek]

I have started a new fortress in a volcano, near of a necro tower. I built that giant magma trap and I was really excited about doing some nice zombie BBQ.

Then I discovered they can't be killed with magma *facepalm* Why? Is that on purpose or is it a bug? Or simply not implemented yet?

Yeah, I did the exact same thing.  Zombies are so much more fun than goblins, but they don't die in magma?  Silly.  Hopefully it IS a bug, and will be fixed before the next release.  Until then, goblins will have to do

[Telgin]

It's a bug, I'm sure  Probably related to the whole things not dying when all of their fat burnt off in older versions of the game.  Toady adjusted it, but hasn't sorted it out completely yet.

He's also planning on introducing "pulping" of zombies at some point in the future, I believe.  That will let you do enough damage to a body part that it can't be reanimated anymore, and removes the need to atomsmash zombies to get rid of them in reanimating biomes.

In regards to burning zombies though, I'm pretty sure I've read that "killing" the zombies and then dropping them into the magma will destroy the corpse while it's "dead", and before it can be reanimated.  So a magma trap isn't completely useless.

[i2amroy]

In regards to burning zombies though, I'm pretty sure I've read that "killing" the zombies and then dropping them into the magma will destroy the corpse while it's "dead", and before it can be reanimated.  So a magma trap isn't completely useless.

Correct. Also if you aren't afraid of modding adding a simple [MELTING_POINT:X] to the various body tissues will remove the zombie magma bug IIRC.

[knutor]

/point at Knutor.  Knutor's afraid of modding.  *shiver*

I bought about 70 turtles from this human caravan in packs of 5.  All the turtle packs have the same sex it appears, only one sex icon, yet I bought 5 turtles. *raise eyebrow*  That's not what bothers me.  What bothers me, is now after the trade is finished, and that human caravan leaves the region, I proceed on over to a murky pond, that I set to be a pond activity zone, and cannot for the life of me find a turtle, or set of 5 turtles, to toss in there.  They are now, nowhere to be seen, but there is a bazillion bees in this Pond list.  What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Knutor

[Garath]

they are dead, Jim... I mean Knutor. It's turtle meat, even without shell already