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[Xen0n]

Make it physically impossible for a dwarf to stand anywhere that's wrong.

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
F>+++++++++++++++
F+
F+  (open space)
F+
F+


I'll have to try that.

But I really hate doing it. I like having stockpiles with food/booze/bolts on the same z-level as the shooters.

Nick

What I do typically is have a walkway for the archers one or two levels up from where the action is gonna happen.  For instance, I have a big loop that goes around my depot area, and set the archers on a patrol route that takes them through the loop, with a detour in the ammo room.  This way they'll shoot until their quiver is empty, then continue along the route and reload at the ammo room, and repeat.  (Make sure that if there is a way for the archers to path to the enemies they are shooting, it is very long and circuitous, otherwise instead of continuing their patrol to the ammo, they will rush the enemies in melee)

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              ╔═════╗
              ║+++++║ <-- Ammo/booze stockpile
              ║+++++║
              ║+++++║
              ╚═╗+╔═╝
                ║+║
╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬+╬╬╬╬╬ <-- Fortifications
╬++++++++++++++++++++++
╬+╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬╬ <-- these can be walls instead
╬+╬
╬+╬
╬+╬  Open space (so they can shoot inwards at the depot as well), dirt, or anything really,
╬+╬    as long as there is no way for the archers
╬+╬   to possibly get to this area by any means (otherwise they will stand in this area when given station / patrol orders)
╬+╬
╬+╬


[Tirion]

Just checking, can inorganic FBs eventually die from "the spinning menacing iron spike strikes the Forgotten Beast in the head, chipping it!"? It does not bleed, every body part is red and listed as both broken and cut open, but the bastard just won't stop. Or will it?

The funny part? It's made of mud and grime. Which I presumed was one hit kill material, not 'get the candy axes' material.

[Garath]

that's a bit of a surprise. Spikes do have a sever chance, however small, just not against some inorganic ones, so I'm guessing this is one of em. A steam one would have been blown away. Axe work time

[Togre]

Two quick questions:

1).  I got "Echidna spine" after butchering a echidna.  Is this a useful material, like a horn or hoof?  Or is it useless, like cartilage2)?

2).  Some of my workshops use material logically from wherever they find it.  Others shut down unless I assign a stockpile to "give" (Worst was a smelter that needed to be "given" charcoal, ore and melt-designated items.  It's hooked up to 5 stockpiles now).  Is this just something I need to get used in DF2012?

Thanks!

[knutor]

1. bone
2. dunno, in a state of nested hauling chaos here, myself.

[greycat]

2).  Some of my workshops use material logically from wherever they find it.  Others shut down unless I assign a stockpile to "give" (Worst was a smelter that needed to be "given" charcoal, ore and melt-designated items.  It's hooked up to 5 stockpiles now).  Is this just something I need to get used in DF2012?

The hauling/stockpile changes in 0.34.08+ are something we're all still adjusting to.  There are also some bugs (e.g. #5895).

If you hook any stockpile up to your smelter, then it won't be able to do a "melt item" job, unless the items to be melted are also in a stockpile which is hooked to the smelter.  This gives you a few options:

• Unlink all stockpiles that are giving to the smelter in order to do the melt item jobs, then reconnect them later.
• Make a quantum stockpile (which is actually a stockpile!  one that accepts anything), dump all the melt-designated items there, unforbid them, and link that stockpile to the smelter.
• Make a separate smelter for melting items, which is never linked to any stockpiles.

I hope that one day we will be able to make stockpiles that take "any melt-designated item" or "any worn clothing" or "any NON-worn clothing".  My god, those things are a pain in the ass....

[Telgin]

How do I make a "fall trap" for injuring dwarves?  I've heard of these things a lot, but have never tried to build one myself.  I understand it must involve a support and a floor that is dropped by the support, but I'm not sure what the configuration should be.  The fall needs to be at least 2 z-levels to cause injury (v.31.25), right?

Should I build a support, then a support one z-level above that one (on top of it?), then a floor adjacent to the top of that support, then link up a mechanism?

[WealthyRadish]

Here's a quick question...
I think I remember reading somewhere that if multiple pumps share an output tile, which is then the source for a pump above it, the flow up the stack will be increased. I've searched around, and haven't found any information regarding it, so I may just be a loony. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

[greycat]

The fall needs to be at least 2 z-levels to cause injury (v.31.25), right?

Are you saying that you are playing in version 0.31.25?  If so then yeah, a fall of 1 Z-level will not cause injury.  (It also means you're posting in the wrong "little questions" thread.)

By far the easiest way to drop some dwarves is to build a retracting bridge (not a raising bridge!) and station the dwarves on it.  Then pull the lever to retract it.  Simple, reusable, does not cause unintended cave-in damage....

[Garath]

it's hard to use it on a critically injured dwarf that's not going to walk there

("I know he's not unconcious, just get him to the hospital!... Okay, so what if he passes out.. what he won't now? What if I break some more bones?")

[Telgin]

The fall needs to be at least 2 z-levels to cause injury (v.31.25), right?

(It also means you're posting in the wrong "little questions" thread.)

Yeah, I'm still playing .31.25 for this fort.  The other thread is locked, else I'd have done that.

Anyway, I'll try the drawbridge, since that is simpler.  For some reason I discounted it before, but as long as I build it a few z-levels off the ground it should work I suppose.

[Garath]

posting here for 31.25 is fine with me as long as we're told which version it is

[DeKaFu]

Does anyone know if it's possible to extinct land vermin like it is fish?
I have brown recluses on my map and want to train a legendary animal dissector, but if they're going to run out it'll make this ridiculously difficult task impossible.

[nbp]

I've just been playing DF for a few weeks now, and am enjoying it a lot, although I'm often quite frustrated.  At the moment I'm having trouble keeping all my stuff inside the fortress.  For some reason I haven't been able to figure out, dorfs keep leaving the nice armor that I've just recently been making for them laying around up on the surface.  Then langur men/women come along and steal it.  I'm probably just struggling to figure out how to do everything with the UI.  Is there at least a good way to tell them to target a piece of equipment laying on the surface to be hauled back down to the (quite spacious) storage rooms in a less vulnerable position?

[Cespinarve]

I've just been playing DF for a few weeks now, and am enjoying it a lot, although I'm often quite frustrated.  At the moment I'm having trouble keeping all my stuff inside the fortress.  For some reason I haven't been able to figure out, dorfs keep leaving the nice armor that I've just recently been making for them laying around up on the surface.  Then langur men/women come along and steal it.  I'm probably just struggling to figure out how to do everything with the UI.  Is there at least a good way to tell them to target a piece of equipment laying on the surface to be hauled back down to the (quite spacious) storage rooms in a less vulnerable position?

Do you a stockpile designated to hold armor and/or weapons? If so, is it full?