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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7785 on: October 18, 2013, 12:37:12 pm »

So is there any hope that next release I can assign my miners to militia as well as be maybe a wood chopper too without any issues?  I would think a simple if check (for militia) for if the equipment currently being carried could be used for the military uniform, to not drop it, but keep it, should do.
This is bug 1451. And no, it's unlikely to be resolved in the next version - while Toady went into the dwarven brain, he didn't specifically work on the dwarven military much. There's an off-chance that it was resolved incidentally, but more likely, it seems a candidate for the bugfix period after the next version (since it does involve dwarven brains in a way).
Would't it be more a job issue?

Well, solution is more general:

1) Dwarves should recognize that they are using item compatible with their military use and use it.

2) Dwarves should be able to carry unused equipment (backpack, holster, etc) and switch accordingly to situation.

That is inventory management issue, not job or military one. And since dwarf inventory management is not exactly developped...

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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7786 on: October 18, 2013, 01:21:32 pm »

The worst part of this bug is not the fact that they need separate axe for woodcutting and axedwarfing, but the fact that all miners/woodcutters/hunters refuse to wear armor while civilian while being explicitly set to wear it. They drop all their armor and military equipment when undrafted, which means when you draft them again they have to wander the fort for long time collecting all the armor pieces again, instead of being ready for combat like all other dwarves can.
This is imho one of the worst bugs left over from last bugfixing phase and I really look forward for it to be fixed in next one.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7787 on: October 18, 2013, 04:43:19 pm »

This is imho one of the worst bugs left over from last bugfixing phase and I really look forward for it to be fixed in next one.
Just keep in mind, I'm only speculating that it's a bug that could be hit in the next bugfix period, and can't guarantee that it'll get looked at.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7788 on: October 19, 2013, 05:50:46 pm »

I don't know if this was already answered, but does toady plan on adding slaves to Armok I spells?
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7789 on: October 19, 2013, 06:03:05 pm »

I don't know if this was already answered, but does toady plan on adding slaves to Armok I spells?
Magic?

Totally. ToadyOne has spoken about adding a Magic System being a post v1.0 thing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7790 on: October 20, 2013, 03:01:17 am »

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post v1.0 thing.

In 10-15 years, then.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7791 on: October 20, 2013, 09:06:45 am »

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In 10-15 years, then.

Well, the interactions system is the start of a magic system.  It is currently somewhat vague and malformed, but Toady thinks he can easily make it into a proper magic system.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7792 on: October 20, 2013, 10:05:34 am »

I don't know if this was already answered, but does toady plan on adding slaves to Armok I spells?
Magic?

Totally. ToadyOne has spoken about adding a Magic System being a post v1.0 thing.
And if you're asking about specific effects, they probably will be possible, but not guaranteed.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7793 on: October 20, 2013, 10:52:07 am »

I don't know if this was already answered, but does toady plan on adding slaves to Armok I spells?

I don't know what you're talking about with magic, but there are slaves that show up in worldgen.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7794 on: October 20, 2013, 11:10:46 am »

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post v1.0 thing.

In 10-15 years, then.

Well, the interactions system is the start of a magic system.  It is currently somewhat vague and malformed, but Toady thinks he can easily make it into a proper magic system.

It's already entirely possible to implement all manner of magic with the interactions system and some cleverness.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7795 on: October 20, 2013, 11:29:14 am »

It's already entirely possible to implement all manner of magic with the interactions system and some cleverness.
But nothing really that flays off someone's skin, teleports a brain out of the body, or summons a generic peasant out of nothing.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7796 on: October 20, 2013, 11:56:06 am »

It's already entirely possible to implement all manner of magic with the interactions system and some cleverness.
But nothing really that flays off someone's skin, teleports a brain out of the body, or summons a generic peasant out of nothing.

Actually, you can. you can make a syndrome that rots the skin and the skin only, and with Dfhack is posible to summon peasants
(masterwork) actually have a building to sumon peasants)
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7797 on: October 20, 2013, 12:04:40 pm »

It's already entirely possible to implement all manner of magic with the interactions system and some cleverness.
But nothing really that flays off someone's skin, teleports a brain out of the body, or summons a generic peasant out of nothing.

Actually, you can. you can make a syndrome that rots the skin and the skin only, and with Dfhack is posible to summon peasants
(masterwork) actually have a building to sumon peasants)
Rotting isn't flaying, and third-party utilities don't count. :P
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7798 on: October 20, 2013, 12:05:09 pm »

And there's no body-part teleporting.
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Re: Future of the Fortress
« Reply #7799 on: October 20, 2013, 12:53:35 pm »

hooved animals can teleport body parts out of the body.
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