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[ArKFallen]

Hypothetical question about the way tissue/body plans work:
Would it be possible to make a cavern-dwelling humanoid creature that is "basically" inside-out? As in it's organs are kept on the outside of the creature and can be separately targeted by attacks?

I'd imagine something similar can be done simply by making a creature that has no skin added to the body plan, but to me this seems like the creatures would just bleed out soon after the game spawns them.

You'd need to make copies of the organs without [INTERNAL] if you wanted out-of-body organs and you might need to get rid of small for targeting (not sure). To make them appropriately inside out can be another much more complex matter involving messing with the BODY_DETAIL_PLAN in creature arguments and possibly making a new body detail plan. Really depends on how far you'd want to go.

[Putnam]

You wouldn't have to make a new one, you'd just have to reverse the order of the arguments in the creature file.

[ArKFallen]

You wouldn't have to make a new one, you'd just have to reverse the order of the arguments in the creature file.

What Putnam means is this

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[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:BONE:MUSCLE:FAT:SKIN:CARTILAGE]But that will give them a layer of bone where skin would usually be, muscle where fat was, skin where muscle was, and cartilage in the places cartilage is supposed to be (so the nose wouldn't be totally inside out).
To make it function more similar to the bones being properly outside the body (to be properly inside out) would be a hassle and potentially require a new body detail plan.

As I meant to say, making them properly inside out would be a pain and a half

[Putnam]

Bones are defined entirely through tissue layers, I'm pretty sure, so no, not really.

[WillowLuman]

Alright, whipped this up real quick. Makes any creature 10x bigger, as confirmed by number of butcher products from an affected vs a normal carcass in Arena mode. Also, punches sent unaffected (normal sized) human across the map.

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[INTERACTION:GIGANTICISM]
[I_SOURCE:SECRET]
[IS_NAME:the power of hulk]
[IS_SPHERE:STRENGTH]
[IS_SECRET_GOAL:IMMORTALITY]
[IS_SECRET:SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RESEARCH_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_TEACHING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RECORDING_POSSIBLE:objects/text/book_instruction.txt:objects/text/secret_death.txt]
[I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_SPEAK]
[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[IE_ARENA_NAME:Gargantuan]
[SYNDROME]
[CE_DISPLAY_NAME:NAME:giant:giants:gigantic:START:0]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:10000]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:10000]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:10000]
Now just to make it so dwarves become this with [CRAZED] when going without booze for too long. For balance, how much sober time sounds appropriate?

[Deon]

What happens when you add NO_EAT to a starving creature? Will it remove hunger or keep the starvation level? Actually if nobody can answer me, I am going to check it out myself and reply .

[Gaybarowner]

What happens when you add NO_EAT to a starving creature? Will it remove hunger or keep the starvation level? Actually if nobody can answer me, I am going to check it out myself and reply .

NO_EAT means the creature does not require to eat to survive so you will not get hunger or die from starvation so most likely I.. think

[Gaybarowner]

Alright, whipped this up real quick. Makes any creature 10x bigger, as confirmed by number of butcher products from an affected vs a normal carcass in Arena mode. Also, punches sent unaffected (normal sized) human across the map.

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[INTERACTION:GIGANTICISM]
[I_SOURCE:SECRET]
[IS_NAME:the power of hulk]
[IS_SPHERE:STRENGTH]
[IS_SECRET_GOAL:IMMORTALITY]
[IS_SECRET:SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RESEARCH_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_TEACHING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RECORDING_POSSIBLE:objects/text/book_instruction.txt:objects/text/secret_death.txt]
[I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_SPEAK]
[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[IE_ARENA_NAME:Gargantuan]
[SYNDROME]
[CE_DISPLAY_NAME:NAME:giant:giants:gigantic:START:0]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:10000]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:10000]
[CE_BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:10000]
Now just to make it so dwarves become this with [CRAZED] when going without booze for too long. For balance, how much sober time sounds appropriate?

I would say about half a year or a little longer

[Wannabehero]

I feel slightly noobish for asking this, but:

Can a creature have one caste with both [MALE] and [FEMALE] tokens and still be able to breed?

[Stirk]

I feel slightly noobish for asking this, but:

Can a creature have one caste with both [MALE] and [FEMALE] tokens and still be able to breed?

No. The one you put on the bottom will take over.

[Stirk]

Sorry for the double post, but I have my own questions. Is it possible, and if so how, to lower the firing speed without lowering the speed of the creature by making it heavy?

[Wannabehero]

Sorry for the double post, but I have my own questions. Is it possible, and if so how, to lower the firing speed without lowering the speed of the creature by making it heavy?

Are you talking about ranged weapons?

IIRC, my understanding is that if you lower [SHOOT_MAXVEL:x] then you lower the overall shooting rate for a weapon as well.  Increasing [SHOOT_FORCE:x] compensates for the loss in projectile momentum/penetrating power.

[Stirk]

Sorry for the double post, but I have my own questions. Is it possible, and if so how, to lower the firing speed without lowering the speed of the creature by making it heavy?

Are you talking about ranged weapons?

IIRC, my understanding is that if you lower [SHOOT_MAXVEL:x] then you lower the overall shooting rate for a weapon as well.  Increasing [SHOOT_FORCE:x] compensates for the loss in projectile momentum/penetrating power.

Yep, and thanks for the info. Now I got some balancing to do...

[exolyx]

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[OBJECT:INTERACTION]

[INTERACTION:DRAGON_SECRET]
[I_SOURCE:SECRET]
[IS_NAME:the breath of dragons]
[IS_SPHERE:MOUNTAINS]
[IS_SECRET_GOAL:IMMORTALITY]
[IS_SECRET:SUPERNATURAL_LEARNING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RESEARCH_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_TEACHING_POSSIBLE]
[IS_SECRET:MUNDANE_RECORDING_POSSIBLE:objects/text/book_instruction.txt:objects/text/secret_fire.txt]
[I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
[IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
[IT_REQUIRES:MORTAL]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_LEARN]
[IT_REQUIRES:CAN_SPEAK]
[I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
[IE_TARGET:A]
[IE_IMMEDIATE]
[IE_ARENA_NAME:Dragonspeaker]
[SYNDROME]
[CE_DISPLAY_NAME:NAME:dragonspeaker:dragonspeakers:dragonspeaker:START:0]
[CE_ADD_TAG:NOEXERT:NO_AGING:NO_EAT:NO_DRINK:NO_SLEEP:FIREIMMUNE_SUPER:NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN:NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST:START:0]
[CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Breath fire]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:ATTACK]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
[CDI:FLOW:DRAGONFIRE]
[CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:60]

While on the subject of secrets, I made this, though it doesn't seem to appear in the arena, is there anything I did wrong here that could have caused that?

[Stirk]

While on the subject of secrets, I made this, though it doesn't seem to appear in the arena, is there anything I did wrong here that could have caused that?

What do you mean by "It is not appearing in the arena"? Do you mean that you can't get a dwarf to become a "dragonspeaker"? Or that his syndromes are not appearing?