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[Abregado]

if they're not redemptionists themselves, they're probably sinners anyways

This.. or they are attacking to press gang them into service knowing they are easier to convert.

"whats that? you dont want to leave your family to join the church..."
*sound of purging flames*
"there now you dont have a family"

If there was a way to have your parent civ never send a caravan I would do that, and make another caravan only civ. Would be a good workaround for some current problems.

I did have an idea about RAWs that randomise before each worldgen (or on command with a batchfile) but I dont have any idea how to code textparsers/modifiers. There have been other attempts to make this on B12 in the past but none ever really worked.

IF this were possible we could have a random house gang come to trade with you, and another that comes to attack you, cycling them with each worldgen. CRAZY ideas!

[GreatWyrmGold]

Remove all ability of the parent civ to tame any pack animals.

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Mind uploading to the DFFD? MediaFire doesn't seem to be working right now...Not for me, at least.

[Abregado]

Remove all ability of the parent civ to tame any pack animals.

I must do some !!SCIENCE!! as in the new release version I'm testing, the home civ already has no pack animals... and they are still arriving with a caravan.

I havent set up a DFFD account yet. Destroid and I use a shared Mediafire account but since several people have requested a DFFD link I guess the next release will be on there.

[Splint]

It might be hardcoded or something. Or they simply use the animals big enough to pull wagons in absence of pack critters. Grox most certainly seem big enough to drag a wagon.

[Destroid]

We use mediafire because it's faster and doesn't require an account for us to upload, but in future we will probably do both.

[Krantz86]

i really hope that someone will release a Gorka Morka version of this mod...

dakka dakka dakka...

[Abregado]

i really hope that someone will release a Gorka Morka version of this mod...

Honestly we did discuss this. If there were vehicles in DF then most likely you would already have a Gorkamorka mod. I would be happy to play anyone else's Gorkamorka mod... GET CRAKIN BOYZ!

Between the Morks and Gorks, Grot Pirates, Mutie riders and Diggas, the worldgen is set to be AWESOME! Plenty of background fluff to draw from. Plus Orks have differing sizes/bodyshapes (Nobs and Bosses are HUGERerer), cool weapons, ect. Building above ground forts out of scrap metal would be amazingly cool. Language files can be modified as well. Hell, just get it made already!

[Suds Zimmerman]

i really hope that someone will release a Gorka Morka version of this mod...

dakka dakka dakka...

DF might not be the best platform for Gorkamorka, seeing as to how the focus of the game is on roving warbands, less settlements. Certainly, I don't see orks lounging about in meeting halls when there's fightan to be done. Not many of the items, creatures and civs transplant and certainly none of the terrain. Something like Mount and Blade might be a better option, or an original vidya. Then again GW's cold fingers have been known to be nigh-impossible to pry from their IP.

Speaking of, this mod could use the GW mantra of legalese proclaiming their intellectual ownership over all things bar the quintessences of violence and outer space, as a holy ward against marauding lawyers (beware their deadly C&D orders.)

[Splint]

Oh god lawyers....

QUICK MAKE THEM AN ENEMY!

No I'm kidding, that'd be silly (says the guy who is adamant that Angry Marines are canon and treat them as such...)

[Mrhappyface]

Mind if I write up something?

[GreatWyrmGold]

It might be hardcoded or something. Or they simply use the animals big enough to pull wagons in absence of pack critters. Grox most certainly seem big enough to drag a wagon.

[WAGONPULLER] or whatever is a separate tag. It is required for anything that wants to pull a wagon. Yes, that means that even the largest of creatures can't pull wagons unless they have that neat little tag. Even dragons. Even giant sperm whales! Okay, that actually kinda makes sense...

[Splint]

Stop crushing my dreams! D:

But yeah, if there are wagons, I'd imaigne something would have to be used somewhere.

[Abregado]

If legality comes into it, I would probably prefer to change all the IP to something else. Guild traders visiting the Survivalists in the abandoned undercity... They wield "automatic guns". Scabby warbands and Repenters come to attack your settlement...

I love GW games, but I'd prefer to move things over than to give them any satisfaction

[Mrhappyface]

Here's some stuff I made for you guys so you can focus on cooler stuff. Lost supply caches and recovering them.

The Lost Supply Ore. Might have to tweak the cluster numbers btw.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[INORGANIC:LOST_SUPPLIES]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STONE_TEMPLATE]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:lost supplies][DISPLAY_COLOR:5:15:0][TILE:132]
   [ENVIRONMENT:ALL_STONE:CLUSTER:40]
[ITEM_SYMBOL:157]
   [IS_STONE]
   [MELTING_POINT:12070]
   [BOILING_POINT:12340]

The ration bars you get from the caches

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[PLANT:RATIONS]
   [NAME:ration bar][NAME_PLURAL:ration bars][ADJ:barred]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:STRUCTURAL:STRUCTURAL_PLANT_TEMPLATE]
      [MATERIAL_VALUE:2]
   [BASIC_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:STRUCTURAL]
      [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:nutritious consistency]

The rations cases you have to unpack

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_RATIONS]
   [NAME:case (rations):cases (rations)]
   [METAL_WEAPON_MAT]
   [UNIMPROVABLE]
   [TILE:6]
   [VALUE:10]
   [SIZE:5000]

Unloading rations reactant

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[REACTION:UNLOAD_RATIONS]
   [NAME:unload rations]
   [BUILDING:TRADE:NONE]
   [REAGENT:rations case:1:TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_RATIONS:METAL:NONE]
      [DOES_NOT_DETERMINE_PRODUCT_AMOUNT]
   [PRODUCT:100:20:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:RATIONS:STRUCTURAL]
   [PRODUCT:50:10:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:RATIONS:STRUCTURAL]
   [PRODUCT:50:10:PLANT:NONE:PLANT_MAT:RATIONS:STRUCTURAL]
   [SKILL:APPRAISAL]

Salvaging supplies. Due to the fact that supply caches are relatively rare, you can get some pretty good stuff from these.

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[REACTION:SALVAGE_SUPPLIES]
   [NAME:salvage lost supplies]
   [BUILDING:RECLAIM:NONE]
   [REAGENT:A:1:BOULDER:NONE:INORGANIC:LOST_SUPPLIES]
   [PRODUCT:100:1:BOX:NONE:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:20:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_RIFLE:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:30:1:WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_PISTOL:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:30:50:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLETS:INORGANIC:MALLIUM]
   [PRODUCT:30:50:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLETS:INORGANIC:MALLIUM]
   [PRODUCT:30:50:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLETS:INORGANIC:MALLIUM]
   [PRODUCT:20:50:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLETS:INORGANIC:MALLIUM]
   [PRODUCT:20:50:AMMO:ITEM_AMMO_BULLETS:INORGANIC:MALLIUM]
   [PRODUCT:30:3:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:COKE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:30:3:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:COKE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:30:3:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:COAL:COKE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_RATIONS:INORGANIC:CARBIDE]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_RATIONS:INORGANIC:CARBIDE]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_WATER:INORGANIC:CARBIDE]
   [PRODUCT:50:1:ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_WATER:INORGANIC:CARBIDE]
   [PRODUCT:10:1:ITEM_TOOL:ITEM_TRADE_ROD:INORGANIC:CARBIDE]
   [PRODUCT:5:1:ITEM_WEAPON_CHAIN_SWORD:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:5:1:ITEM_WEAPON_SWORD_POWER:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:5:1:ITEM_WEAPON_AXE_POWER:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [PRODUCT:5:1:ITEM_WEAPON_FIST_POWER:INORGANIC:PLASTEEL]
   [SKILL:HERBALISM]

[Abregado]

Thanks for that. Couple of points tho.

Whats different between Ration bars and Synthcakes at the moment?
Labour cost on the salvaging is way too low compared to everything else in the mod.
The value of the plasteel box that you get every time outweighs the random get value most of the time
There is a chance you will get HEAPS of those items from a salvage attempt.

Also try to think of a way that it can interface with the existing salvage industry