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[McTraveller]

Anyone care to crunch the numbers on snow bear physics?

Awesome.

While it makes me sad to see such obvious lack of quality control...

Awesome.

[nenjin]

That's a quality control issue? It'd be a quality control issue if the bear got stuck in the terrain. They loose some points for the body not remaining articulate in its paralysis, but it's still pretty delicious physics at play.

[Frumple]

Hilarious, maybe. There's nothing related to physics in a frozen bear tumbling downhill and somehow managing to achieve limited helicopter-style flight

The QC issue is where the bear starts spazzing out and flying. When that's the conclusion of your physics code, someone messed up a lil', heh.

Best laugh I've had in a while, though. Anyone know if that can happen to the player?

[Kilroy the Grand]

Hilarious, maybe. There's nothing related to physics in a frozen bear tumbling downhill and somehow managing to achieve limited helicopter-style flight

The QC issue is where the bear starts spazzing out and flying. When that's the conclusion of your physics code, someone messed up a lil', heh.

Best laugh I've had in a while, though. Anyone know if that can happen to the player?

Well some drauger deathlords can do a full powered shout that rogdolls you.... so probably.

[nenjin]

The QC issue is where the bear starts spazzing out and flying. When that's the conclusion of your physics code, someone messed up a lil', heh.

I forget the second half of it is the bear buggin' out. Up until then it was pretty amazing, because that's what I imagine a corpse rolling down a 70 degree slope would look like.

[Cthulhu]

Honestly a physics system seems like the kind of thing with so many moving parts it'd be impossible to isolate every event like this and deal with it.  The giants launching you into space thing should be fixed, and probably will.  The frozen bear flipping the fuck out thing probably won't and I don't have a huge problem with that.  It's a quirk of a complicated system.

[McTraveller]

Honestly a physics system seems like the kind of thing with so many moving parts it'd be impossible to isolate every event like this and deal with it.... It's a quirk of a complicated system.

Eh, that's why you don't try to program for specific events - instead you program for general situations.

Apparently the issue has to do with improper rebound when objects collide - that would explain both the objects launching into space when pummeled by giants or odd spinning when falling; both are results of extremely high velocities, probably due to forgetting to put a simple limit on max overlap of an object with the ground (that is, if the engine computes an overlap that is very large, it gets a large force; if you don't put an "if overlap is > X, then limit it to X" then you get silly behavior.

I would wager that the mad spinning of the objects falling is because they have extremely high angular velocities so that they don't appear to spin smoothly - instead you get them at apparently discontinuous angles because they've gone, say, 200 degrees in one frame.

And yes, I have too much experience with this kind of thing.

But, as I said earlier, it is still pretty awesome - and it could be they left it in just because it's hilarious.

[Frumple]

... would it have broken immersion too much to trigger a laughtrack whenever the spin got too high?

I could totally see the bear (and there's at least one other video that does it with a frost troll or somethin') going 'wheeeee'. Or turning into some kind of ice encased slurry from the forces it's being exposed to. *ice melts, bearpuddle oozes out, gains sentience, attacks player* Ursine slime. Urslime.

[ThtblovesDF]

Well some drauger deathlords can do a full powered shout that rogdolls you.... so probably.

I had the bad luck to have deathlords (and a boss) chain up there shouts so I was ragdolled for like a full minute, always getting pushed over again just before I got up, but thankfully they also missed every shot with there bow on my spazing out body and my companion eventually tanked for me.