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RavingManiac

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Improved fire and burning
« on: May 18, 2011, 02:26:09 pm »

Items on dwarves catch fire
Just like how DF was before 0.31, clothing and carried items on dwarves should catch fire upon contact with other burning items or magma. As before, dwarves with flaming clothing will run about flashing red and trailing smoke. For some reason, this was removed in the updates, but should be relatively easy to implement.

Furniture and buildings catch fire
Furniture, floors and walls made of wood or other flammable materials will catch fire when adjacent to other flaming furniture/walls/floors, flaming items and magma. Wooden workshops will burn down, and wooden constructions will be rapidly consumed by a spreading inferno.

Burns
Currently, the only way a dwarf is damaged by heat is when his flesh starts melting. Instead, wounds should also be caused by direct contact with sufficiently hot items and liquids (i.e. magma). Upon contact, burn wounds are immediately dealt to the affected body part, varying in severity depending on the temperature. Due to the cauterizing effects of burning, burns will bleed little, and death by bloodloss will be uncommon except after a prolonged time without treatment. With a severe enough burn wound, the body part can completely burnt off.

Automatic dowsing of fires
To prevent all fortresses from collapsing completely in blazing infernos, the dwarves will be slightly more sensible in their actions regarding fire. Burning areas and tiles with flaming items on them will have an increased traffic cost, or be completely unpathable just like magma-containing tiles. When a dwarf catches fire, he will immediately attempt to take a bath, hence quenching the flames. With the right labor enabled, dwarves may also attempt to put out flaming tiles and dwarves with buckets of water.

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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2011, 05:06:50 pm »

I agree with the majority of the suggestions, particularly the one about burns. Proper burns need to be implemented, since creatures, I think, are more likely to drown than to actually 'burn up'.
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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2011, 10:55:03 pm »

Creatures are more likely to melt than drown. The reason all those things were removed was because they are retarded with fire. Dwarves don't notice fire at all and will walk through it.

When Toady manages to get round to proper fire handling, he will probably bring back burning dwarves.

Walls and floors don't catch fire because they are constructions, they act in the same way that a stone wall does. That means that they won't melt or burn. When you mine stone with a boiling/melting point lower than the current temperature, then it will vaporise instantly, yet it won't melt in unmined form.
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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 01:52:54 pm »

Creatures are more likely to melt than drown. The reason all those things were removed was because they are retarded with fire. Dwarves don't notice fire at all and will walk through it.

When Toady manages to get round to proper fire handling, he will probably bring back burning dwarves.

Walls and floors don't catch fire because they are constructions, they act in the same way that a stone wall does. That means that they won't melt or burn. When you mine stone with a boiling/melting point lower than the current temperature, then it will vaporise instantly, yet it won't melt in unmined form.
Stone burns, you just have to work at it.
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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 10:32:42 pm »

Heck yeah, improve the fire.
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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 08:36:40 pm »

back onto the magic issue, i had a similar thought, but instead of pure magic, make it more priest based. in adv, or fortress mode, gods would play a bigger role. You could build an altar, or even a cathedral, an din exchange get their protection. THey could send you aid if attacked, or send down holy texts which teach certain dwarves the secrets of mysticism. It would be similar to the necromancy thing, but it might include spells that act like projectiles. they might even be as complicated as you: craft a fireball, then throw the fireball at an enemy, making it so that you can technically be a mage if you live in a tower and collect magic artifacts and scrolls/tablets/etc. but a battle mage would need actual skill to succeed in combat.

on a side note, dragons breath fire, why can't dwarves? beside that anatomical problems of course. :D
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Re: Improved fire and burning
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 10:15:11 pm »

on a side note, dragons breath fire, why can't dwarves? beside that anatomical problems of course. :D

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