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John Hopoate

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Fire/Heat related issues
« on: December 11, 2006, 12:52:00 pm »

It's really tired so I'll be quick

1. I was adventuring in a Goblin fortress for a while and eventually about six or seven of then simultaneously froze to death out of sight.

2. I was walking around with a pair of burning pants and there were no negative consequences until I walked past a swamp and was instantly killed by steam.

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AlStar

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 01:30:00 pm »

I love how currently the best thing to do when you're on fire is to stay the hell away from water, since the fire is actually less deadly.

DDouble

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 03:24:00 pm »

I started a fire on a bush next to a pond. I was standing in the pond. As soon as I started the fire on the bush, I was "cracked" all over my body by steam.

I guess in dwarf fort, you have to fight fire with fire? I want to get into a fight with burning clothing on and see if that hurts an enemy.

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Misterstone

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 07:39:00 pm »

The exact thing happened to me.  Bushing bush next to pond... walk into steam for one turn, instant death.

I think steam will need to be tuned down a bit.  I mean, steam shuold be deadly, but a fire next to a pond isn't going to produce that much!

Also, I think burning dead bodies by putting them on top of a bush and lighting it creates steam too... deadly!

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Gakidou

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 09:48:00 pm »

So I take it that we are not going to want our military Dwarves to carry waterskins while near the magma river?
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Captain Mayday

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 02:52:00 am »

Actually, the steam thing is horrendously deadly.

I tried it out for myself in a town, and even after I was obliterated by the steam explosion, the steam KEPT GOING!

A child and a horse passed by and were scalded to death by the steam.


So as I see it, there are a couple issues here:
Water should put fire out, not explode into deadly steam.
Fire should burn a lot more when you're standing in it.

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 02:59:00 am »

Like I said in the release notes (I think?), the flows aren't updated yet, so weird things happen, especially with steam.  Direct contact item <-> bp temperature exchange isn't done either, so you can last quite a while with burning clothes.

The freezing goblins have stupid milling code I think.  The dwarves know better and stay inside, but I don't think I taught adventure mode critters about it (and in the towns, their houses aren't any warmer).

[ December 12, 2006: Message edited by: Toady One ]

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Re: Fire/Heat related issues
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 12:41:00 pm »

Even if buggy for the moment, this is a truly kick-ass feature.  I will keep using/abusing the set fire thing to see if there are any other idiosyncracies with how it works, and post to this thread for convenience.  Keep an eye on this thread, I guess.
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